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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2010 19:02:43 GMT -5
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Post by doctoracula on Apr 22, 2010 19:09:28 GMT -5
that quote is so mind-bogglingly stupid that i can't even think of anything to say
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2010 19:22:55 GMT -5
that quote is so mind-bogglingly stupid that i can't even think of anything to say I dunno... I like the Hold Steady more then Gaslight, and they're a much better band, but i think I listen to Gaslight more. there's just really simple/simplistic in a good way. like junk food or action movies so maybe 'tunes' explains it? i dunno but yeah THS can write some amazing tunes. every Gaslight song kinda sounds the same. and all their lyrics are kinda similar. and they don't innovate. and Craig's a better lyricist then Brian Fallon will ever be |
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Post by 99rockproblems on Apr 22, 2010 19:28:56 GMT -5
NME isn't exactly what I would call a source for music journalism integrity though...we're talking about the same guys who hype up every up-and-coming British band so much that they always fail to reach up to their true expectations. Not to say that guys like the Arctic Monkeys and Bloc Party didn't make some great albums and great tunes, but certainly they weren't the next Beatles like NME wanted you to believe.
Anyways, I love Gaslight Anthem's music and I love the Hold Steady's music (even more), but I saw the Gaslight Anthem in concert once and they absolutely, positively sucked. They can't even hold a candle to the Hold Steady in live performance. One of the most disappointing concerts I've ever seen.
So yes, while Gaslight Anthem are far more likely to have the ability to break into the mainstream than THS do, THS still beats them in almost every category of making music that I can think of...
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Post by theriver on Apr 22, 2010 19:32:13 GMT -5
So yes, while Gaslight Anthem are far more likely to have the ability to break into the mainstream than THS do, THS still beats them in almost every category of making music that I can think of... This, pretty much. That's what I don't like about GA; they just sound so generic to me. |
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Post by ontheradio on Apr 22, 2010 19:36:39 GMT -5
yeah, this.
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Post by doctoracula on Apr 22, 2010 19:38:00 GMT -5
i've never really bothered listening to gaslight anthem records because i saw them once and don't remember a single thing about it
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2010 19:38:59 GMT -5
So yes, while Gaslight Anthem are far more likely to have the ability to break into the mainstream than THS do, THS still beats them in almost every category of making music that I can think of... This, pretty much. That's what I don't like about GA; they just sound so generic to me. that's what I like about them though! i mean, THS and Gaslight are pretty much the only bands i seriously listen to (this is probably not a good thing), so I contrast them alot... they've both got the 'rock as redemption' thing happening but THS tell these sprawling amazing innovative stories with redemptive moments and sad moments and quotable put downs and it's so awesome to listen to and absorb Gaslight just make music about being sad and out of place or in love or happy, and everything is kinda immediate and quotable and you want to pump your fists and yell like i'm listening to Soft in the Center now and it's awesome! if it was a Gaslight song the chorus would be dialed up to 200% and sound triumphant instead of a bit melancholy and hopeful whatever. if more bands made music like these two, the world would be a better place as for seeing them live... when did you guys see them? i saw them in a small club after hearing 2 songs and became an instant convert |
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Post by doctoracula on Apr 22, 2010 19:42:50 GMT -5
i saw them in philly with the loved ones and the ergs feb 2007
the ergs stole that show
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Post by theriver on Apr 22, 2010 19:45:49 GMT -5
This, pretty much. That's what I don't like about GA; they just sound so generic to me. that's what I like about them though! i mean, THS and Gaslight are pretty much the only bands i seriously listen to (this is probably not a good thing), so I contrast them alot... they've both got the 'rock as redemption' thing happening but THS tell these sprawling amazing innovative stories with redemptive moments and sad moments and quotable put downs and it's so awesome to listen to and absorb Gaslight just make music about being sad and out of place or in love or happy, and everything is kinda immediate and quotable and you want to pump your fists and yell like i'm listening to Soft in the Center now and it's awesome! if it was a Gaslight song the chorus would be dialed up to 200% and sound triumphant instead of a bit melancholy and hopeful whatever. if more bands made music like these two, the world would be a better place as for seeing them live... when did you guys see them? i saw them in a small club after hearing 2 songs and became an instant convert I can understand why you like them, but they just don't do anything for me. As for fist pumping and yelling; have you not heard the bridge in Stuck Between Stations!   I saw them at Hard Rock Calling. To be fair, they were quite good, but Brian Fallon was trying too hard to be 1970's Springsteen. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2010 19:53:55 GMT -5
that's what I like about them though! i mean, THS and Gaslight are pretty much the only bands i seriously listen to (this is probably not a good thing), so I contrast them alot... they've both got the 'rock as redemption' thing happening but THS tell these sprawling amazing innovative stories with redemptive moments and sad moments and quotable put downs and it's so awesome to listen to and absorb Gaslight just make music about being sad and out of place or in love or happy, and everything is kinda immediate and quotable and you want to pump your fists and yell like i'm listening to Soft in the Center now and it's awesome! if it was a Gaslight song the chorus would be dialed up to 200% and sound triumphant instead of a bit melancholy and hopeful whatever. if more bands made music like these two, the world would be a better place as for seeing them live... when did you guys see them? i saw them in a small club after hearing 2 songs and became an instant convert I can understand why you like them, but they just don't do anything for me. As for fist pumping and yelling; have you not heard the bridge in Stuck Between Stations! yeah! that's an amazing tune! and Constructive Summer and Rock Problems all do the same thing but Gaslight is all fist-pumping, all the time that sounded kinda dirty it's also pretty weird... if you read their lyrics they're all pretty depressing or nonsensical, but they make them sound good it's also weird that American Slang and Heaven is Whenever are both slower albums that came before, in different ways.... HiW is more widescreen and melancholy, but American Slang is slower and jazzier gotta say that yeah, Brian wants to be Springsteen clearly, whereas the Springsteen comparisons with THS keep getting less and less accurate |
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Post by mcstevepants on Apr 22, 2010 19:58:53 GMT -5
I love both bands to death. I can't say who's better.
.......but American Slang is better than Heaven Is Whenever.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2010 20:01:39 GMT -5
I love both bands to death. I can't say who's better. .......but American Slang is better than Heaven Is Whenever. *runs away* *runs after you* *hands you the flyer for the Gaslight Anthem Addiction Support Group he's starting with a friend* Heaven is Whenever is probably a better album, which is why it's going to take longer to get into then American Slang but yeah it's close. very, very close. also, American Slang is better then previous Gaslight albums but HiW might not be as good as previous THS albums or it might be even better |
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Post by mcstevepants on Apr 22, 2010 20:05:13 GMT -5
I'd also like to add that saying THS doesnt rock as hard as TGA, or that TGA doesnt have as good as lyrics, is retarded. Both bands are stunning musically AND lyrically.
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Post by marshal28 on Apr 22, 2010 20:10:02 GMT -5
I think TGA is all fine and dandy, but there music tends to run together for me. Never really roars but hits a 3/4 level. That's just me. I can dig the choruses but the music... Just...
Anyways, as long as someone's making good Rock And Roll, I'm happy. NME evidently blows.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2010 20:15:55 GMT -5
I'd also like to add that saying THS doesnt rock as hard as TGA, or that TGA doesnt have as good as lyrics, is retarded. Both bands are stunning musically AND lyrically. seriously? Craig Finn is up there with John Darnielle in terms of modern lyricists. Brian Fallon can't match that or maybe he's just not as self-consciously 'literary'/clever/narratively inclined not a horrible album. would be interesting to see what NME says about HiW |
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Post by ng20 on Apr 22, 2010 20:27:14 GMT -5
I got into both bands at around the same time, and I liked TGA more for awhile. I think it was because of the immediate accesibility and sheer catchiness, etc. It took some time, but one day THS clicked for me and since then they have always been number one. I still really really like TGA, but, yes, their songs can tend to sound the same and the lyrics/themes are repetitive and have a cliched feel at times. But for straight up fun, non-challenging music, it's hard to beat TGA.
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Post by mcstevepants on Apr 22, 2010 20:38:48 GMT -5
seriously? Craig Finn is up there with John Darnielle in terms of modern lyricists. Brian Fallon can't match that or maybe he's just not as self-consciously 'literary'/clever/narratively inclined Go read the lyrics to 'sink or swim' and I think you'll change your mind. If not, oh well. 2 very different lyricists, for sure. |
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Post by bigrob on Apr 22, 2010 20:45:13 GMT -5
I enjoy TGA, but they don't have the same effect on me that THS do. TGA to me is just a good band that sounds like Springsteen.
THS is so much more.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2010 20:45:42 GMT -5
seriously? Craig Finn is up there with John Darnielle in terms of modern lyricists. Brian Fallon can't match that or maybe he's just not as self-consciously 'literary'/clever/narratively inclined Go read the lyrics to 'sink or swim' and I think you'll change your mind. If not, oh well. 2 very different lyricists, for sure. yeah, good point like i said on the last thread, Hold Steady mostly write about characters. Gaslight mostly write about us (except for The Cool. who is that guy/abstract concept/Miles Davis album?) |
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Post by mcstevepants on Apr 22, 2010 20:48:02 GMT -5
I think The Cool was Miles's band? I think. but it could also be like you said, abstract...the cool could be like a presence, a feeling, a style.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2010 20:52:01 GMT -5
I think The Cool was Miles's band? I think. but it could also be like you said, abstract...the cool could be like a presence, a feeling, a style. strangely enough, ABC aired a QI episode the same night that American Slang leaked that explained it... Birth Of The Cool was apparently the first time the word 'cool' was used in it's present form but i'm not sure if Gaslight keep referring to the album or a person. he's the only recurring character besides all the Marias |
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Post by parock on Apr 22, 2010 23:02:35 GMT -5
Gee whiz this subject is so very very tired.
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Post by shakerheights on Apr 23, 2010 0:23:58 GMT -5
As a huge fan of both bands, I've never really understood why these two bands were chosen to be constantly compared against each other. I blame it on all the Springsteen fans who jumped on the bandwagon when The '59 Sound got huge, but I digress.
It is funny, though. Especially since you go to the Gaslight boards and always get the same responses ("My God his voice is awful, and he just talks" / "Can I please get a song about something other than just partying? Every song is the same") than you go to THS message boards and get the same responses over and over again ("They sound so generic" / "He tries too hard to be Springsteen" / "Fallon's no Finn" / "Can I please get a song about something other than just being from New Jersey? Every song is the same").
Just enjoy the two bands for what they are. There's no real need to make comparisons constantly between the two. And there's definitely no need to hate one because you like the other, or try to prove which one is the best.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2010 0:29:56 GMT -5
As a huge fan of both bands, I've never really understood why these two bands were chosen to be constantly compared against each other. i dunno... most people i know who are fans of one are fans of both i'm hoping that the comparisons lead to other bands doing the same sort of things, whatever those things are |
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