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Post by fowler1969 on Feb 19, 2021 9:45:49 GMT -5
Ordered the black vinyl from THS non us store music glue they are blaming the delay on brexit got the new hoodie from the same shop in 2 days tho thought I’d support the hold steady approved shop rather than Jeff Bezos
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Post by skepticatfirst on Feb 19, 2021 10:03:08 GMT -5
Such overload right now.
Just want to say that Unpleasant Breakfast is weird AF and I really like it. The range of feeling going all the way from "sawdust" to "undamaged" hits pretty hard. I don't know anyone who can hold that ground like Craig.
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Post by star18 on Feb 19, 2021 10:11:53 GMT -5
I stayed up til 2 last night, listening to the whole thing through twice after it dropped. Not gonna be selling a ton of software made for offices today.
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Post by redwino on Feb 19, 2021 10:32:13 GMT -5
I love it :-)
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Post by blackoutsam on Feb 19, 2021 10:54:37 GMT -5
Three listens in and thinking a lot about where this one ranks with all of the others...not quite sure yet, but from front to back there is not a skippable track on this album.
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Post by nosferatu on Feb 19, 2021 12:07:13 GMT -5
Ordered the black vinyl from THS non us store music glue they are blaming the delay on brexit got the new hoodie from the same shop in 2 days tho thought I’d support the hold steady approved shop rather than Jeff Bezos I ordered peach from Rough Trade. Arrived yesterday. There’s a misprint on the lyric sheet, I wonder if that’s one of the reasons? Anyway, here you go muzzleofbees :
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Post by nosferatu on Feb 19, 2021 12:15:57 GMT -5
I cant place the song the keyboards in Hanover Camera reminds me, but I love it...this album is amazing. Not sure where i would rank it compared to the others since this is my first full listen, but it is really something special. Neither could I, and then I worked it out. For me at least it’s “Get It Right Next Time” by Gerry Rafferty! Edit: with a debt of gratitude to Breakdown by Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers.
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Post by tableinthecorner on Feb 19, 2021 13:28:23 GMT -5
I've been listening all day and I'm starting to fall in love with this album- I legitimately think this might be their best record outside of the first three. I've also finally settled on a top five:
1- Lanyards 2- Parade Days 3- Unpleasant Breakfast 4- Riptown 5- Spices
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Post by muzzleofbees on Feb 19, 2021 14:26:13 GMT -5
Ordered the black vinyl from THS non us store music glue they are blaming the delay on brexit got the new hoodie from the same shop in 2 days tho thought I’d support the hold steady approved shop rather than Jeff Bezos I ordered peach from Rough Trade. Arrived yesterday. There’s a misprint on the lyric sheet, I wonder if that’s one of the reasons? Anyway, here you go muzzleofbees : Thanks!
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Post by shpeen on Feb 19, 2021 15:02:39 GMT -5
I cant wait to do the Woo Hoo noise in Unpleasant Breakfast at a live gig
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Post by dmwhalen on Feb 19, 2021 19:25:11 GMT -5
Unpleasant Breakfast is my early favorite. I can see this being a solid jam at the shows.
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Post by star18 on Feb 20, 2021 13:50:45 GMT -5
I don't use Apple Music, but was checking some lyrics on Genuis.com and found a link to the Apple page which contains some "Editor's Notes" from Craig & Franz. (https://music.apple.com/us/album/open-door-policy/1539020630)
By this point a lot of these same stories have cropped in multiple interviews, but there were a few really interesting things that I hadn't see yet, so thought I would share here.
Open Door Policy "I have this idea that if the record was a movie poster there'd be a tagline that was like, 'Power, Wealth, and Mental Health,'" Hold Steady frontman Craig Finn tells Apple Music. "It felt like a heavy time in 2019 to write all this stuff, and then 2020 came and just kind of like put a bow on it." With their eighth studio album, the Brooklyn-based sextet tackles subjects like technology, consumerism, and income inequality over a sonic palette that broadens the band's dose of heady alternative rock. Open Door Policy is the second release since keyboardist Franz Nicolay rejoined the band, laying the foundation for tracks like the burnt-out "Heavy Covenant" and sleek "Hanover Camera," solidifying what Finn calls the best collection of Hold Steady tracks yet. "I think The Hold Steady 3.0 feels sort of like a Super Steady," he says. "The thing I'm really psyched about this record is the story of [guitarist] Steve [Selvidge] and Franz finding space for each other and kind of defining the sound of this version of The Hold Steady. It's a huge part of the success of this version of the band." Here, Finn and Nicolay guide us through Open Door Policy's 11 tracks.
The Feelers
Craig Finn: "I felt like this song's kind of an invitation into the story. This could be a dramatic opener in the sense of a drama or a play or a musical or something, something that kind of starts soft and builds up.'"
Franz Nicolay: "It announces that this is the kind of record that's going to be on this sort of grander scope and dealing with these darker themes."
Spices
CF: "I've got a phone that saves your contacts even when you change phones. And so like if I look through my phone I have so many people in here and each one of them could pop up at any moment, each one I could get a text from. And I was obsessed with that as sort of like your phone is this device that might lead you into a situation or story. There's this disembodied connection to it that we didn't have with landlines as much."
Lanyards
CF: "This is a song about someone going out to California to follow their dreams. It relays the parallel stories in the choruses when he talks about lanyards and laminates and wristbands. All these things that we use to get access to like the VIP area, or trying to get into the party where the free drinks are or whatever. So it kind of was a meditation on that, of pursuing that kind of access and going and trying to find it and it not working out."
FN: "This for me is really the heart of the record. There's a real texture, like this sort of carpet of guitars and the keyboards, and it's just like all melded together with these amazing lyrics. It's not showy, but it's got all the parts in their place."
Family Farm
CF: "The lyrics mention the Eddie Van Halen guitar solo in 'Eruption,' and here we are when the record's released and Eddie Van Halen has passed. And I think that the reason I love this and why I bring this up is because a lot of people talk about things like Springsteen or The Replacements when they talk about The Hold Steady. But in some ways, Van Halen was also a big influence. There's one guy who's kind of talking or yelling, and there's another guy playing a lot of guitar solos."
Unpleasant Breakfast
CF: "I think this is a song that we might not have done a few years back. But we just did these shows at the Brooklyn Bowl in December [2020] and Franz informed us that we have like 119 songs. So when you have 119 songs, you can kind of be like, 'Well, this one's going to have a drum machine.' It's possibly my favorite song on the record because it tells a really good and a really sad story and I love that it's unique to our catalog. It may be something that people weren't expecting."
FN: "I think Craig has said before the thing that he brings to the table is he's not really a hard-rock guy. He's much more in this sort of midtempo groovy jam-band world, and so he's really drawn to a song like this that puts us a little more out of our comfort zone in a productive way."
Heavy Covenant
FN: "When we were down in Nashville for our shows a couple years ago, I stayed in the hotel room and did computer demos. And this came from two of those. Basically the verse and the chorus were one song and the bridge was an entirely different song that Craig and Josh [Kaufman, producer] were like, 'What if we just take the beginning of that second demo and plop it right in the middle of the first demo?' And it worked."
The Prior Procedure
CF: "This track has to do with people who are kind of displaced, wandering the desert, so to speak, and go to a place that a really rich guy owns and is making available to anyone who wants to. So there's your open-door policy. But the idea is that this guy's really rich. He still has control over it and he still won't give up the control, and I think that that's a thing we find a lot with like really rich guys having their own charities, et cetera. It still has a thumb on it."
Riptown
CF: "This might have been the last song that came together. And there's kind of a fast-talking thing that I just tried to do. But mainly, it just rides that groove and it's one of those that I think that benefited from not overthinking or pushing too hard on it."
FN: "Every time we were on a break, [guitarist] Tad [Kubler] would just walk around with an acoustic guitar playing this riff. And eventually we were like, ‘I guess that's a song that has some creative energy right now behind it.’ There was an idea about doing it like a Guided By Voices thing with that sort of blown-out acoustic guitar vibe."
Me & Magdalena
CF: "When we got done with this and the record was all turned in, I somehow came across another song called ‘Me & Magdalena’ by The Monkees. And what's weirder is it's a new record by The Monkees which Adam Schlesinger produced and Ben Gibbard wrote the song. And then I listened to the song and it's a great song. And I know I've never heard that song before, because I would have known it because I like it so much. But that said, I must have seen the song title and like subconsciously internalized it, because it seems like too much of a coincidence to come up with the first line of the song and then name the song that. So apologies to everyone, but it's a totally different song."
Hanover Camera
FN: "Kind of a creepy song, right? Again, it's that expectation of, like, 'Oh, here's where the solo's going to go in,' and then it's like there's this gaping absence where it might be that I think is really evocative."
Parade Days (Bonus Track)
CF: "This is a bonus track rather than an album cut because thematically I think it's set aside. It's about someone like myself who grew up in Minneapolis, and it's about the changes that the city's made during their lifetime. If we recorded like eight more, maybe we'd hold on to them and wait for the bonus edition down the line. But it just felt like we should let people hear the other song recorded, especially with the digital platform these days."
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Post by cre618 on Feb 20, 2021 19:41:31 GMT -5
This is awesome. Thanks for posting. Family Farm
CF: "The lyrics mention the Eddie Van Halen guitar solo in 'Eruption,' and here we are when the record's released and Eddie Van Halen has passed. And I think that the reason I love this and why I bring this up is because a lot of people talk about things like Springsteen or The Replacements when they talk about The Hold Steady. But in some ways, Van Halen was also a big influence. There's one guy who's kind of talking or yelling, and there's another guy playing a lot of guitar solos."
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Post by bigontheinside on Feb 20, 2021 19:48:10 GMT -5
I love that after all that speculation on the Me & Magdalena title, it was just a weird accident! A similar thing happened to me years ago when I started writing a song called 'Sandblasted and Set Free', with no idea what that meant or how it appeared in my head. Turned out to be a Maximo Park song that I didn't even like all that much.
"It's that expectation of, like, 'Oh, here's where the solo's going to go in,' and then it's like there's this gaping absence where it might be that I think is really evocative." This is a really interesting quote from Craig. This record is fun and exciting and is so chock full of ideas, but it also has a lot of restraint in a way that previous records haven't. There's so much progression between *Thrashing* and ODP, but they were recorded so close together, it's crazy. Some of my favourite moments that feel so fresh for this band in a way I would never have expected: - The tempo changes in The Feelers - The BEEP BEEP BEEP guitars/synth in Heavy Covenant - and especially the weird melody starts in the bridge at 3:08ish - The synth sound at 2:24 of The Feelers - Craig's delivery in Me & Magdalena, and the fuzzy bendy guitars too - Everything about Unpleasant Breakfast (took me a few listens, but I quickly went from "uh oh" to "WOOO"
It's such a confident album... God, I love it. I think it's my favourite since Stay Positive, and I say that as a big HIW and Teeth Dreams defender. It feels like the evolution the band was struggling to find after SP, and I love that it sounds like it's come together so well purely because they were having so much fun.
I think it's also worth mentioning, there's a lot of discussion here and on the Hold Steady Positive Posting facebook group, and I've barely read a single criticism of the album (worst I've seen is basically "not sure about these woos"). It's so nice to see everyone is loving it. Even when SP was released there were some serious haters. I vividly remember a thread here titled "So you nerds really think Cutters is a good song?"
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Post by kayfaberaven on Feb 20, 2021 22:51:31 GMT -5
"But in some ways, Van Halen was also a big influence. There's one guy who's kind of talking or yelling, and there's another guy playing a lot of guitar solos."
Admittedly I've had a few drinks (for real, vanilla vodka and Diet Dr. Pepper, although I just switched to a margarita), but I legitimately laughed out loud at this.
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Post by kayfaberaven on Feb 20, 2021 23:29:48 GMT -5
OK, I've listened through ODP about 5 times. I love it. In a few different interviews Craig has said that the band now has about 118 or 119 songs, so the pressure is off a bit and they're having fun. He's also said that because they recorded in two big chunks they weren't trying to hit a home run every song (which apparently happened a bit on TTTP) and were aware they were making a full album. Also, I'm loving all the keys, the interplay of the guitar and the horns (gonna need the Horn Steady for these songs), and the backing vocals, but on at least a few songs Bobby's drumming is the pleasant surprise.
A few thoughts song by song:
The Feelers: Interesting opener. Love all the changes of pace, which are off-putting (in a good way), especially on my first listen. I could see this as a closer, actually.
Spices: I'm surprised THIS isn't the opener (although how much of that is because I've listed to Spices --> Family Farm --> Heavy Covenant dozens of times over the past couple months?). I've also learned that I enjoy vanilla vodka and Diet Dr. Pepper.
Lanyards: Just incredible lyrics and imagery.
Family Farm: The biggest banger of the bunch, and the closest to "classic" THS.
Unpleasant Breakfast: I like the woos. The first time I heard them I was...puzzled. I'm curious if the song would now sound like something was "missing" without them. The woos will be fun live, but I'm not sure we'll time them correctly unless Craig or Franz prompt us.
Heavy Covenant: My favourite song on the album. It just keeps building and building. There must be at least 20 different things going on simultaneously at the end and it gets just up to the edge of being too much, but it's perfect, especially on headphones.
The Prior Procedure: This feels like an outtake from TTTP to me, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Has what I find to be the funniest lyric (or is it Craig's delivery?) on the album: "And it looks like she's old enough to know a little better / But these people seem really open-minded"
Riptown: This one hasn't totally grabbed me yet, although I like the story Craig (?) told in an interview about a roadie named Rip who would say there was going to be an after party in his hotel room -- the Rip Zone.
Me and Magdelena: This one makes me feel smart because I (think I) can follow the narrative fairly easily.
Hanover Camera: I like this as a closer, although I keep expecting it to be more drawn out with a guitar solo or something.
Parade Days: I like it but understand why it's a digital only bonus track because it doesn't quite fit with the rest.
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Post by skepticatfirst on Feb 21, 2021 8:16:30 GMT -5
Admittedly I've had a few drinks (for real, vanilla vodka and Diet Dr. Pepper Doing the work.
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Post by doctorwu on Feb 21, 2021 9:01:43 GMT -5
Four plays in and this gets better with every listen.
Odd question though - does the physical edition have any writing credits? Checking the ASCAP repertory site, it seems to be mostly written by Craig and Franz with nothing for Steve and only one credit for Tad. Does anything on the album packaging suggest otherwise?
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Post by kayfaberaven on Feb 21, 2021 10:22:48 GMT -5
Admittedly I've had a few drinks (for real, vanilla vodka and Diet Dr. Pepper Doing the work. I actually like it! I saw someone compare it to children's cough syrup, which seems fairly accurate to me.
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Post by N8 on Feb 21, 2021 18:52:57 GMT -5
Four plays in and this gets better with every listen. Odd question though - does the physical edition have any writing credits? Checking the ASCAP repertory site, it seems to be mostly written by Craig and Franz with nothing for Steve and only one credit for Tad. Does anything on the album packaging suggest otherwise? This is what I've got (via youtube credits) The Feelers (Finn, Nicolay) Spices (Finn, Kubler) Lanyards (Finn, Kubler) Family Farm (Finn, Kubler, Nicolay) Unpleasant Breakfast (Finn, Kubler) Heavy Covenant (Finn, Nicolay) The Prior Procedure (Finn, Selvidge) Riptown (Finn, Kubler, Selvidge) Me & Magdalena (Finn, Nicolay) Hanover Camera (Finn, Nicolay) Parade Days (Finn, Selvidge)
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Post by muzzleofbees on Feb 22, 2021 2:50:56 GMT -5
Four plays in and this gets better with every listen. Odd question though - does the physical edition have any writing credits? Checking the ASCAP repertory site, it seems to be mostly written by Craig and Franz with nothing for Steve and only one credit for Tad. Does anything on the album packaging suggest otherwise? Edit: Ah, a little too late! But it wasn't useless - it probably show that it doesn't make sense what order the names are put it. When I saw "Nicolay" before "Kubler", as in not alphabetically, I thought it might indicate who was the main composer. That Youtube credits probably suggest that there's no system in this. Spotify have credits up. I went back to check Thrashing and Teeth Dreams, and couldn't find any specifics, all the songs are credited to the band. But for ODP, they got this up: The Feelers (Finn/Nicolay) Spices (Finn/Kubler) Lanyards (Finn/Kubler) Family Farm (Finn/Nicolay/Kubler) Unpleasant Breakfast (Finn/Kubler) Heavy Covenant (Finn/Nicolay) The Prior Procedure (Finn/Selvidge) Riptwon (Finn/Selvidge/Kubler) Me & Magalena (Finn/Nicolay) Hanover Camera (Finn/Nicolay) Parade Days (Finn/Selvidge)
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Post by muzzleofbees on Feb 22, 2021 5:36:57 GMT -5
I would guess I'm not the only one getting confused about that line about the camel in his eye from Hanover Camera, but this might help: "24 I’ll say it again—it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!” www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19%3A24&version=NLT
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Post by muzzleofbees on Feb 22, 2021 7:24:36 GMT -5
I've also made a quick guide to lyrical references to other songs in the catalog. I've set a medium high bar. There's probably references here who really aren't a reference, and there's probably some I've missed. I've done it most for my own sake, but I figured I might as well share it here:
THE FEELERS
"...mansion on the mountain" -- "Once upon a time I had a meeting with a man in a mansion" (Star 18)
"...led us to the office" -- I accept that "office" is a pretty common word, but the office itself is being described in such detail in the song, that it's interesting to look for other offices in the previous THS lyrics. I can't think of that many, but you have "she was holding down home office" (Blackout Sam)
"...a specific british clipper ship..." -- as skepticatfirst pointed out in another thread, this is likely to be a reference to The Ambassador
"The sunrise wasn't perfect..." -- "There's nothing like a Cheyenne sunrise..." (Cheyenne Sunrise)
"The sheperds started spinning out..." -- Most likely a reference to the character Shepard (I Hope This Whole Thing Didn't Frighten You, Look Alive)
"The cowboys..." - numerous references in about fifteen songs, but most notably "cowboy on the crosstown bus" (Sweet Payne), "...for every cowboy that got fenced in" (Stevie Nix), the entire motif of Saddle Shoes and "the drifters in the kitchen" (You Did Good Kid)
"With the spaceman saying take me to your dealer" -- Not really a pure reference, but there's an ongoing space theme in Denver Haircut which rings a bell, with the narrator of the song flying around in a "spaceship shaped like a Gibson Marauder", visiting six different planets.
"The broken birds all heading south" -- I can't remember them all, but seem to reckon there are a few times where broken/birds/wings are mashed up in different variations. What springs first to mind are "...baby birds with broken wings, and we sing" (The Most Important Thing)
"...there's burners in the kitchen" -- "Trying to light a burner who never cathces spark" (T-Shirt Tux), in a scene obviously (seemingly, at least) set in a kitchen, with a table and a fridge
SPICES
"Pretty many people allready" -- "And it really pleased me to be around so many people" (Cattle And The Creeping Things), numerous subtle references to more people than bodies
"...the previous winter" -- Not exactly a precise time reference, but we still remember "last winter there was weather" (Charlemagne In Sweatpants), "that winter we were dealing with unrest in the interior" (Blackout Sam), "last winter I thought she might be our savior" (Sketchy Metal)
"December" -- "When I brought you back here for Christmas" (IHTWTDFY), "When she came home for Christmas" (One For The Cutters), and while it's another month, the January 2nd from Last Time She Talked To Me could be relevant, since the narrator of Spices hadn't seen this girl "since" December.
"Happy Easter" -- well, this is pretty obvious
"It was springtime in the sweet part of the city" -- Sweet Part Of The City, spring equals easter, the references to March and April in The Only Thing, "spent the summer wishing it was spring" (Blackout Sam) and plenty of more, I guess
"And she's acting on a tip..." -- an interesting one. Could reference both the entire plot of Stone And The Toaster, but also echoes "at first I though that she hit on some tip that she got from some other guy" (Chips Ahoy!)
"She said (...) meet me (...) Just before daybreak" -- "She said we might use you later on/ meet me back here right about dawn" (Stevie Nix)
"...we watched the parade" -- One of three songs on the record who reference that parade (The Feelers, Parade Days), with the majorettes (Our Whole Lives) appearing in this one
"All the old cars looked fatigued" -- You need to do a little mashup here, but "fatigued" is as far as I remember mentioned in only one THS song, and that's one about cars in general, and more specifically a car crash: Navy Sheets
"We've been taking on whatever they offer" -- "I took everything they gave me/ I jammed it into my system" (Most People Are DJs)
"...in the woods" -- "Walked into the woods till she came to a clearing" (OFTC)
"And if the band ever plays a resurrection/ it's at the end of the show" -- Regular closer How A Resurrection Really Feels
LANYARDS
"...stuck out in the middle..." -- "Stuck between..." (Stuck Between Stations)
"California" + "tripping and disinterested kissing" -- I won't go to far with Lifter Puller stuff here, but there's so many porn related songs set in California, and the "disinterested" part here makes me think of "She came on like she wanted a kiss/ now she's kissing like she allread came" (Roaming The Foam)
"...hum of the locusts" -- "It kinda sounded like The Locust" (Girls Like Status)
"...washed out of showbiz" -- "Sure we know it's just showbiz" (TMIT)
"The doctor" -- Again, there's lots of way "doctor" can be used in a pretty normal sense, but it make me think of "The doctor said it was all in his head" (Runners High), "Doctors and deep thinkers" (SBS), "the doctor said it's sort of suspicous" (Traditional Village)
"...some second shot theater" -- "Seeing lousy movies, but only for the AC" (Hostile, Mass), "back half of the theater" (Banging Camp), "sit in the back of the theater just drinking and talking" (Almost Everything)
"Shark week" -- "The Sharks" are prominent in Lifter Puller, but there's plenty of sharks in the THS universe to. "Great white sharks" (Banging Camp) and the pun on SHARPs/sharks in Entitlement Crew springs to mind
"...way to much blood for a nosebleed" -- "The doctor said it was all in his head/ then they discovered the blood" (RH)
"Saw a few stars, but I never made it into the movies" -- another version of the movie motif "She didn't get to the part about the studios/ she went straight to video" (Curves And Nerves)
FAMILY FARM
"Before she took her shot, she said a little grace" -- Expanding to the solo stuff here, but it's so similar to "The way she cross herself when it's the bartender's round" (Terrified Eyes) that I couldn't let it go
"I almost rolled my eyes when they asked me how to score" -- "Jesus rolled his eyes when his dad made Jesus jokes" (Sketchy Metal)
"Out along the towers there were guards with heavy arms" -- "Milita men" (Knuckles), "stocking up like it's world war IV" (IHTWTDFY)
UNPLEASANT BREAKFAST
"All your stuff in a storage shed" -- "She sleeps in a storage space by the airport" (The Only Thing)
"Cleaning carpets" -- lots of carpets in the THS world (also in Family Farm), but "cleaning" added to the picture makes me think of the burns on the carpet at the Thunderbird (Stevie Nix), the bloody carpets (Positive Jam) and also various references to "cleaning" in other songs, like "she's a cleaning freak" (Our Whole Lives) or "I said I'll do anything but clean" (Rock Problems)
"All the burns on the windowsill/ says she's crazy about horses still" -- Probably a double heroin reference (spoon/horses), but if "horses" were to be taken literally, it points back to the two horse themed songs Chips Ahoy! and Yeah Sapphire
"The breakfast was unpleasant" -- "Princess came to breakfast looking puffy..." (Confusion In The Marketplace)
HEAVY COVENANT
"Kitchenette" -- For all the "kitchens" in the THS lyrics, there's not that many "kitchenettes", apart from "I'll be in the kitchenette/ making meals out of marzipan" (Curves And Nerves)
"If you know the perfect words to say/ you can get it almost anywhere" -- Echoes "Once you get good you can get it wherever you are" (Star 18)
"Then I palmed him almost forty bucks" -- "Forty bucks and her favourite band" (40 Bucks)
THE PRIOR PROCEDURE
"...fawn strays from the forest (...) wanders into traffic" -- Need another dip into Lifter Puller here, with "We hit the nightlife like deer in the headlights" (Lifter Puller vs The End Of The Evening)
"She stopped and made a few calls" -- Echoes "Said he could make a few calls/ but I don't think that he made any calls" (Jester And June)
"He said he's through with computers" -- "He's done with DVDs" (Girls Like Status)
RIPTWON
"And he's always in the red, white and blue" -- "Blew red, white and blue right into a tissue" (The Swish)
"...that stuck to her shoes" -- "Like a sneaker getting stuck in the Missisippi mud" (Runner's High). Not the same thing, but shoe/stuck is close enough.
"Do me a favour, let me order for you/ you should try something different" -- Make me think of "Whereever he go he always orders the usual/ he likes to see what they bring him" (Denver Haircut)
"...tiny little collisions" -- "Tiny little triumphs" (T-Shirt Tux). Could just be non-intended re-usage of the same phrasing, but it's specific enough to pay attention to
"The kids on the corner..." -- "Kids on the corner..." (Hostile, Mass)
"And some local legend let her pick up the chech" -- "Be careful when you mention local legends" (Blackout Sam)
"The directors (...) the actress (...) sister" -- All features in one single motif in Slapped Actress
"...pinned back in the booth" -- "Pinned down" (Party Pit) and "I know some kids who didn't come back/ from the plywood painted black" (Two Handed Handshake)
"Another sketchy crucifixion tattoo" -- "Got a cross upside down carved in his arm" (The Ambassador)
ME & MAGDALENA
"Death (...) DJs (...) disco (...) drugs" -- I sort of feel I've heard all these elements used together before. First I tought about 4 Dix, but there's no mention of disco. Gonna dig back and see what I can piece together
"She showed me the postcard he sent from overseas (...) the castles are all creepy" -- Not exactly a hard connection, but it's interesting to hear Craig sing about postcards from Europe picturing old buildings, just like he did on the very first Lifter Puller album, 25 years ago
"...certain songs can really sting" -- "Certain songs they get so scratched into our soul" (Certain Songs)
HANOVER CAMERA
"The party with the python in the shower" - "There was a snake in the shower last night" (Snake In The Shower)
"We got backstage and hung out with the band" - "Woke up with a backstage pass in my pants" (Sketchy Metal)
"Soldiers" -- "Onward, Christian soldiers" (Cheyenne Sunries), "So hard to be a Christian soldier there" (Look Alive), fits with the image of gang wars as real wars (Knuckles)
"Soft along the edge" -- "It was dark around the edges" (Sketchy Metal)
"Once she put her hand over the lens" -- It's not really that many references to cameras in the catalog, but it pops up everywhere here. They forget to move the lens cap in Riptown, and an entire verse of Unpleasant Breakfast is dedicated to set up the scene of which the narrator of the song takes a picture.
"The hand that held the camera was trying not to tremble" -- "Try not to judge me by the pictures I take/ I've always had some pretty shaky hands" (Eureka), also You Tremble
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Post by skepticatfirst on Feb 22, 2021 8:05:59 GMT -5
I've also made a quick guide to lyrical references to other songs in the catalog. Doing the other kind of work! Thanks a lot for putting so much together in one place, there's a lot of thought-provoking stuff here.
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Post by muzzleofbees on Feb 22, 2021 8:43:22 GMT -5
I've also made a quick guide to lyrical references to other songs in the catalog. Doing the other kind of work! I'm over in the corner of my home office, singing "Sweet Lord, I surrender".
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