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Post by Andy on Feb 27, 2009 1:18:04 GMT -5
Am I over thinking things, but is there any connection between "Cattle And The Creeping Things" and the Lifter Puller song "4Dix"?
Finn mentions the "four guys" in both songs and how he's "heard this one before" in the former. I'm still convinced the connection is a stretch, but I was just wondering if it's been noted before.
Thanks.
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Post by lilhan on Feb 27, 2009 6:26:58 GMT -5
is it not a reference to the book of revelations? y'know, the bible and shit.
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Post by mike on Feb 27, 2009 8:20:00 GMT -5
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Post by lilhan on Feb 27, 2009 8:56:34 GMT -5
see i do pay attention.
just not to anything that will actually go towards my degree...
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Post by cubbies4e on Feb 27, 2009 13:36:45 GMT -5
I love how self referential the Hold Steady are. Craig is a fucking master at lyrics.
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Post by Andy on Feb 27, 2009 18:10:05 GMT -5
I love how self referential the Hold Steady are. Craig is a fucking master at lyrics. Yeah, I figured it was just Craig being Craig but I thought it was worth mentioning. And yes, Craig is a fucking master at lyrics. |
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Post by brianfrompgh on Feb 27, 2009 23:00:26 GMT -5
I have come to think of Lifter/Puller as the Old Testament and Hold Steady as New Testament....
If you know where I'm coming from.
Or like Zappa and the whole Project/Object thing. Though Zappa did it with music as well as lyrically
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Post by dot info on Mar 1, 2009 5:40:10 GMT -5
holdsteady.wikia.com/wiki/4_guys_on_horsesIf you've read Revelations you'll know that there's no "pestilence". And whether there's a "famine" is debatable. Don't know where that myth came from but it's quite inaccurate.
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Post by jamesjesusangleton on Mar 2, 2009 9:51:58 GMT -5
Famine is one: the commonly accepted interpretation is that the four horsemen of the apocalypse are conquest, war, famine and death.
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Post by dot info on Mar 2, 2009 10:58:40 GMT -5
It may be commonly accepted but I think the wording could more clearly indicate financial imbalance or greed. The fact is that the only one of the riders that has a name is Death, the others don't have names. I'm curious as to where the other generally recognised names actually came from.
I have £10 on the catholic church made them up because that interpretation suited them at time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2009 18:39:00 GMT -5
best interpretation of the Four Horsemen is in Neil Gaiman/Terry Pratchett's 'Good Omens'. read it
when i was pulling out my Unified Scene shirt a cricket fell out. or was it a locust???
seriously, was it? i'm useless with things that exist in the real world
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Post by dot info on Mar 3, 2009 5:46:11 GMT -5
Where Pollution took over from Pestilence after the invention of penicilin?
And how every tape left in a car long enough morphs into the Best of Queen?
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Post by Rhinovirus on Mar 3, 2009 9:55:18 GMT -5
best interpretation of the Four Horsemen is in Neil Gaiman/Terry Pratchett's 'Good Omens'. read it I could not agree more. However that story is my favorite Apocalypse story as well. I generally love Terry Pratchett's Death character though. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2009 17:18:41 GMT -5
Neil Gaiman's isn't bad either... but the combo of the two is amazing
i love how War is a beautiful woman who starts fights wherever she goes. Neil used the same idea on a post-Sandman Endless anthology thing. probably kinda sexist but also kinda awesome
there's a great Four Horsemen in one of the Discworld stories too. they all meet to play poker
um.. THS.. yeah. its a huge narrative. Craig's said so
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Post by retiree on Mar 6, 2009 0:08:42 GMT -5
best interpretation of the Four Horsemen is in Neil Gaiman/Terry Pratchett's 'Good Omens'. read it I generally love Terry Pratchett's Death character though. Sheer, unadulterated genius. The over-affected death is brilliance. Period. |
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Post by mike on Mar 6, 2009 9:42:27 GMT -5
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