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Post by 212margarita on Dec 15, 2008 21:13:35 GMT -5
what annoys me with kanye and his auto-tune is that unlike, say, t-pain (who's publisher/my professor flat out said to my class "you do not want to hear him sing without that thing, haha"), it isn't cranked to the max. if it was, you would hear it going on everything, even the well-held on pitch notes because it wavers anything that isnt scientifically 100% on. kanye just can't sing, and we're supposed to be okay with that because OH HEY ITS THAT COOL SOUND. Like when people call it "vocoder effect". It's not a vocoder! It's autotune! For people that can't sing! If you can't sing, don't sing! That's how it used to work, and if someone couldn't sing, producers secretly brought in people who could. It was never the lead singer or a big band or something like that, though. Ergh this gets me so angry because now all these pop-punk teenager bands come into Matt's studio and they WANT to hear some auto-tune. They want it to sound mechanical. *stands up and begins to clap* well said
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Post by bryan on Dec 16, 2008 10:48:27 GMT -5
Auto-tune is terrible; but I feel like we're over-reacting. A good majority of mainstream pop music is and has been terrible regardless of the latest trends. It will continue to find new and horrifying ways to suck. Good music will also continue to find new and exciting ways to be good. Auto-tune is not going to ruin anything that ever had any potential in the first place.
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Post by hostilemass on Dec 16, 2008 12:17:58 GMT -5
Forget autotune. Kanye plain cannot rap.
Let me rephrase. He could rap. His first album was good. I thought College Dropout was pretty original and refreshing when it came out . But now, he's a joke. It's like he used up all his good material for his first album, and we get stuck with his leftover shit like "Gold Digger" and "Stronger"
I will give him one thing. The guy can produce some pretty sick beats, but as far as rapping goes, give it up. For a guy who considers himself the "voice of the generation" he's really got nothing to say.
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Post by gushingblood on Dec 16, 2008 13:06:35 GMT -5
College Dropout was smokin'.
Is Kanye trying to have a joke by making the autotune so blatant? (I did think it was a vocoder first time I heard it)
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Post by joelle on Dec 16, 2008 13:20:38 GMT -5
kanye 's performance did just what he wanted he has you all talking about it not that i can understand what any of y'all are saying but you are talking baout the man, dropping his name, googling his youtube...money money money...i <3 kanye
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Mahoney
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Post by Mahoney on Dec 16, 2008 13:44:27 GMT -5
i'd rather listen to kanye with or without autotone before say another favorite around hear katy perry. or 50, or the game, or how about commercial rap. or commercial radio altogether. man, the state of music is shit.
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Post by gushingblood on Dec 16, 2008 14:00:56 GMT -5
You're hot then you're cold, you're yes then you're no....
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Post by njtownie on Dec 16, 2008 14:33:10 GMT -5
I think he had what is called a "Milli Vanilli" moment, (or an "Ashlee Simpson moment for the youngsters) where his vocal "sweetener" (read: piped in vocals) didn't get triggered somehow, and he just toughed it out instead of skipping off the stage. Everyone in that upper tier of pop star does that vocal sweetening. I have a buddy who's the drummer for a big pop act, so it's part of his job to do the triggering. Everyone does it, don't be fooled. Some bands even use guitar sweeteners. It's terrible, and it's infiltrating indie acts as well.
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Post by thechumpion on Dec 16, 2008 16:33:44 GMT -5
My buddy worked @ the Kahala Apple store. where you could see him skating/walking around the neighborhood between takes for this album.
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bigrob
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Post by bigrob on Dec 18, 2008 13:44:57 GMT -5
You're hot then you're cold, you're yes then you're no.... you're in then you're out, you're up then you're down. Usually I'm immune to music like this but this one got me.
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