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Post by heidivandernice, nice on Dec 14, 2008 2:33:58 GMT -5
did anyone catch him on SNL tonight? if so, i'm sorry for the bleeding your eardrums must be doing.
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Post by gushingblood on Dec 14, 2008 7:10:10 GMT -5
Kanye has really gone downhill.
College Dropout was an amazing concept album and my favourite rap album to date.
Late Reg was pretty good and had a few gems on it
Graduation was a bit pants bar 3 or 4 songs
808's & HBs just seems too different and I can't dig any of the songs.
Who else was on SNL with him?
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Post by motörben on Dec 14, 2008 9:57:39 GMT -5
You kind of have to admire his balls though.
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Post by essbee on Dec 14, 2008 10:07:42 GMT -5
It was mindbogglingly bad.
I defer to the genius of Dr. Stephen T. Colbert, DFA, in this matter:
"Sir, you are not the voice of this generation of this decade. In fact, with all the auto-tuning on your records, you’re barely the voice of your own albums."
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Post by hard corey on Dec 14, 2008 10:22:46 GMT -5
its pretty bad when you flat out can't sing your own songs.
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Post by gushingblood on Dec 14, 2008 10:24:39 GMT -5
It was mindbogglingly bad. I defer to the genius of Dr. Stephen T. Colbert, DFA, in this matter: "Sir, you are not the voice of this generation of this decade. In fact, with all the auto-tuning on your records, you’re barely the voice of your own albums." When did Colbert say this? Was he on SNL or was it just on the Report? Damn I love Stephen Colbert, I stayed up till 3 last night watching Colbert Report on FX. Best Night Ever(well best night this week) |
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Post by essbee on Dec 14, 2008 10:27:56 GMT -5
It was mindbogglingly bad. I defer to the genius of Dr. Stephen T. Colbert, DFA, in this matter: "Sir, you are not the voice of this generation of this decade. In fact, with all the auto-tuning on your records, you’re barely the voice of your own albums." When did Colbert say this? Was he on SNL or was it just on the Report? Damn I love Stephen Colbert, I stayed up till 3 last night watching Colbert Report on FX. Best Night Ever(well best night this week) On the Report. www.rollingstone.com/blogs/smokingsection/2008/12/stephen-colbert-declares-war-o.php |
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Post by joelle on Dec 14, 2008 10:53:36 GMT -5
You kind of have to admire his balls though. agreed i do. i still dig him . |
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Post by gushingblood on Dec 14, 2008 11:10:05 GMT -5
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Post by heidivandernice, nice on Dec 14, 2008 11:24:38 GMT -5
You kind of have to admire his balls though. watch the video and see if you still think that... |
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Post by Admin on Dec 14, 2008 11:26:35 GMT -5
I didn't see the SNL clip, but I really love the new record. Pretty fearless.
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Post by motörben on Dec 14, 2008 11:30:50 GMT -5
You kind of have to admire his balls though. watch the video and see if you still think that... I get that Kanye singing is bad. It's also really fucking courageous. |
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Post by hard corey on Dec 14, 2008 12:48:57 GMT -5
i think if we play different music over that awesome background he's got, we're in business
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Post by Mahoney on Dec 14, 2008 16:24:48 GMT -5
i really like 808's. even though it's way too overplayed, you have to play love lockdown really loud on a good stereo and once those african tribal drums set in, it will change your opinion.
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Post by red on Dec 15, 2008 1:17:49 GMT -5
i fucking love those drums.
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Post by 212margarita on Dec 15, 2008 10:08:29 GMT -5
the beats on 808's are awesome, that really has never been a problem for Kanye. But the auto-tune is out of control, it's a trend in music i just can't really get behind. It is a ballsy move and all, but the end result isnt very good.
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Post by heidivandernice, nice on Dec 15, 2008 10:40:18 GMT -5
i cannot explain how much i hate autotune. if it's audible in the recording, that means you can't sing, so um, don't.
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Post by 212margarita on Dec 15, 2008 10:49:11 GMT -5
exactly! and it just seems to be everywhere now. I blame Cher.
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Post by hard corey on Dec 15, 2008 14:17:08 GMT -5
they are trying to make us get used to hearing auto tune like its "cool" so we can be force fed unnaturally attractive people with no talent and terrible voices.
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Post by heidivandernice, nice on Dec 15, 2008 17:16:19 GMT -5
they are trying to make us get used to hearing auto tune like its "cool" so we can be force fed unnaturally attractive people with no talent and terrible voices. christ, corey, i love you |
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Post by bigrob on Dec 15, 2008 18:10:29 GMT -5
they are trying to make us get used to hearing auto tune like its "cool" so we can be force fed unnaturally attractive people with no talent and terrible voices. it's been going on for too long, and i think it's just going to get worse. I think that kanye west's albums have just gotten progressively worse every time, and this was the album where it became too much. |
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Post by gushingblood on Dec 15, 2008 18:11:29 GMT -5
The sad thing is that Kanye actually had talent, unlike the crappy popstars who use it just because they are so bad, Kanye really has gone down in my estimation after his latest album.
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Post by 212margarita on Dec 15, 2008 18:22:07 GMT -5
The sad thing is that Kanye actually had talent, unlike the crappy popstars who use it just because they are so bad, Kanye really has gone down in my estimation after his latest album. i think he still has talent as a rapper, 808's was just an experimental record (or at least i hope it was) and part of me admires him for trying something new. But with that said. if you can't sing without the help of auto tune...then dont sing. Dance with who you came to the dance with Kanye. |
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Post by bigrob on Dec 15, 2008 18:24:50 GMT -5
Dance with who you came to the dance with Kanye. couldn't have said it better myself |
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Post by hard corey on Dec 15, 2008 19:25:07 GMT -5
what annoys me with kanye and his auto-tune is that unlike, say, t-pain (who's publisher/my professor flat out said to my class "you do not want to hear him sing without that thing, haha"), it isn't cranked to the max. if it was, you would hear it going on everything, even the well-held on pitch notes because it wavers anything that isnt scientifically 100% on. kanye just can't sing, and we're supposed to be okay with that because OH HEY ITS THAT COOL SOUND.
Like when people call it "vocoder effect". It's not a vocoder! It's autotune! For people that can't sing! If you can't sing, don't sing! That's how it used to work, and if someone couldn't sing, producers secretly brought in people who could. It was never the lead singer or a big band or something like that, though.
Ergh this gets me so angry because now all these pop-punk teenager bands come into Matt's studio and they WANT to hear some auto-tune. They want it to sound mechanical.
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