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Post by muzzleofbees on Apr 4, 2021 14:33:47 GMT -5
That said, I am on the record as taking Craig's interview explanations with a grain of salt, since (to my mind) he frequently tries to deflect a bit from the overall complexity of the whole thing. I hope he wouldn't straight up lie to a direct question about an influence, which seems different than being deferent or evasive about the complexity of the whole thing, and would seem to lack dignity.
If that were the case, I'd feel he should not be so ashamed about the whole thing but take pride. Glad you found that quote.
I think it's harsh to frame "It's just something I made up" as a lie, in any sense of the word. And it might be a natural answer to a very strict question regarding which actual movie he's talking about. I think it's fair to assume that it doesn't have to be an exact description of one single movie, but something, I don't know, more subtle or nuanced. |
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Post by larrynyc on Apr 23, 2021 8:00:15 GMT -5
There is the works of John Cassavetes ("Slapped Actress"), I think my favorite of THS movie references. The only Cassavetes movie in which Ben Gazzara and Gena Rowlands appeared was Opening Night.
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Post by muzzleofbees on Apr 23, 2021 14:43:58 GMT -5
There is the works of John Cassavetes ("Slapped Actress"), I think my favorite of THS movie references. The only Cassavetes movie in which Ben Gazzara and Gena Rowlands appeared was Opening Night. Legs wide open on the opening night! |
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Post by tableinthecorner on Apr 23, 2021 19:40:22 GMT -5
There is the works of John Cassavetes ("Slapped Actress"), I think my favorite of THS movie references. The only Cassavetes movie in which Ben Gazzara and Gena Rowlands appeared was Opening Night. I think Craig's use of Opening Night references is really interesting. He definitely does it to support the metaphor of actors/directors/putting on a show throughout other THS songs, but there was also a conversation near the end of the movie that jumped out at me when I first watched it. I wish I had access to the screenplay online, but the best I can find is the transcript. Anyway, Gena Rowlands' character says stuff like "We are absolutely different people than we were," "Well I am not me, and I know that I am someone else," "We've been invaded! There's someone posing here as us," and "Do you think they killed us? Do you think they murdered us? Do you think we're dead?" When she says that, she means that she has become a different person now that she's older. That being said, I think that, by referencing Opening Night, Craig is also nodding at the "a single body is a couple different people in this one life" and the "I still ain't died, or have I?" aspects of his story. |
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Post by larrynyc on Apr 24, 2021 16:21:50 GMT -5
Thanks tableinthecorner, it's nice my post set off such interesting reflections!
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Post by skepticatfirst on Apr 30, 2021 11:27:19 GMT -5
Not sure hurleybot is updating this list, but I just remembered the Sketchy Metal line And bless the beasts and the children and the water and the waiters [SM] which appears to refer to the 1971 move Bless The Beasts & Children ( wikipedia). It's true that the movie was based on a novel, but the novel is pretty obscure, especially for someone writing in the 2000's; looks like an allusion to the film to me.  |
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