Alright Alright (Here Goes part II: Lifter Puller) Feb 23, 2021 3:55:00 GMT -5
Post by muzzleofbees on Feb 23, 2021 3:55:00 GMT -5
Still not convinced (I'm still hearing "they made a movie starring you" as a connection to "we make our own movies" and the movie-resurrection), but it definitely merits further thought.
I'm not really here to convince anyone either, and these things is beyond anything anyone can "prove" (in both a wide and a strict sense of the word). I posted the You Did Good Kid parts just to show that there's plenty of lyrics that, if you listen to them with a given perspective, takes on a whole different meaning. And being open to hear it in that sense, opens up different possibilities. And you start to hear other parts of other songs different. With the way Craig write, a single line could mean x, but also y - but when you listen to it with a different mindset, also z. It doesn't mean any of these readings are true/"true", and it doesn't mean that only one of them can be true/"true" either. It just opens them up. That's how it is for me, anyway.
The Here Goes narrative as presented by skepticatfirst could still be "true", even if some of the lines describing the Metal Bar beatdown also have a double meaning suggesting something sexual. Just as Slapped Actress both can be a song about the kids heading down to the party pit to put up a show, while it at the same time can be a self-referencing song about The Hold Steady as a band. When Craig talk about the rocks, he might be talking about the rock, but he's also talking about the icecubes and the frozen water. And when Craig talk about "rock problems", he's talking about the rock'n'roll, but also the rocks (or the icecubes or the frozen water). All of these things might not be possible to boil down to a singular story each of its own, but that's not really the point either (again, at least not to me). But if there are enough references to a beatdown also being sexual, enough times "suck" are used in a way who sounds sexual, then I think it's interesting to try to listen to other stuff with that perspective too.
Damn, it's hard to talk about this shit the way I like - this is where I would like to switch to my mother tounge.