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Post by john k on Oct 16, 2020 16:07:55 GMT -5
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Post by N8 on Oct 16, 2020 17:47:49 GMT -5
really excited to hear the studio version of "Separate Vacations"
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Post by doctoracula on Oct 16, 2020 21:13:26 GMT -5
CANNOT WAIT FOR THIS. three unheard songs! studio recordings of "separate vacations" and "going on a hike" and an older recording of "criminal fingers"! this is really exciting
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Post by dannyhatch on Oct 16, 2020 21:49:12 GMT -5
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Oct 17, 2020 5:40:08 GMT -5
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Post by fontaine on Oct 17, 2020 5:40:08 GMT -5
Fantastic news. Digging Separate Vacations on first listen and really looking forward to Going on a Hike.
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Oct 18, 2020 14:28:14 GMT -5
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Post by john k on Oct 18, 2020 14:28:14 GMT -5
They played separate vacations, hike and ascension blues on the 2011 tour yet they weren't on the album for whatever reason. They are far better songs than some on HIW.
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Oct 18, 2020 15:22:30 GMT -5
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Post by doctoracula on Oct 18, 2020 15:22:30 GMT -5
At least ascension was on a 7”. The others just sat in the vault til now. This version of separate vacations is excellent
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Post by john k on Oct 18, 2020 18:05:48 GMT -5
At least ascension was on a 7”. The others just sat in the vault til now. This version of separate vacations is excellent Forgot it was a b side. One of my fav Steady tunes.
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Oct 18, 2020 18:16:55 GMT -5
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Post by doctoracula on Oct 18, 2020 18:16:55 GMT -5
At least ascension was on a 7”. The others just sat in the vault til now. This version of separate vacations is excellent Forgot it was a b side. One of my fav Steady tunes. it’s a great one. I wish I ever saw any of these songs live!
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Oct 18, 2020 20:42:19 GMT -5
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Post by N8 on Oct 18, 2020 20:42:19 GMT -5
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Post by john60 on Oct 19, 2020 3:13:23 GMT -5
Do you know if there will be regional ordering (UK) - double the price of a $40 order for shipping is a bit excessive :-)
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Post by chinaski on Oct 19, 2020 5:11:02 GMT -5
There is a non-US store link on the homepage theholdsteady.net/ but when I try to access it at the moment it says it's locked. Hopefully later today there might be a separate page pop up for us non-US folk?
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Post by muzzleofbees on Oct 19, 2020 5:41:27 GMT -5
I just ordered from the US site. It usually ends up being pretty much the same price for me, but that could have something to do with the norwegian currency. 160 dollars is maybe a little too much to spend on this, but it always feels pretty good placing the order.
Did the full bundle with the red vinyl + the bundle with the other t-shirt and black vinyl. That should cover it.
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Post by john60 on Oct 19, 2020 7:37:24 GMT -5
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Post by tbob on Oct 19, 2020 13:14:09 GMT -5
Just pre-ordered the coloured vinyl. Kinda wish I’d got a bundle but how many more THS tees do I need? I say trying to convince myself. Psyched to finally get to hear Going on a Hike. I’ve only heard a poor quality YouTube video of it previously and didn’t see them on the HiW tour. Another regret. I listened to the album again earlier and honestly think it’s the hidden gem in the back catalogue. Whenever we do a ranking on here it always seems to come in higher than I would have thought.
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Post by magicrat on Oct 19, 2020 13:46:16 GMT -5
What's the deal with the Avatar Sessions download?
Does it come with the Red Vinyl version?
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Post by john k on Oct 19, 2020 13:53:47 GMT -5
What's the deal with the Avatar Sessions download? Does it come with the Red Vinyl version? Comes with the digital deluxe version
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Post by magicrat on Oct 19, 2020 14:02:31 GMT -5
What's the deal with the Avatar Sessions download? Does it come with the Red Vinyl version? Comes with the digital deluxe version Thanks........ Any idea if the Bandbox version includes the digi downloads also?
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Oct 19, 2020 18:05:01 GMT -5
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Post by doctoracula on Oct 19, 2020 18:05:01 GMT -5
So now that I’m thinking about it, do we know if this is an older version of Criminal Fingers? Or did they take a recording from these sessions for the 7”? I’m wondering if this is version we haven’t heard or if they’re making the single version more widely available now.
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Post by muzzleofbees on Oct 20, 2020 3:04:58 GMT -5
So now that I’m thinking about it, do we know if this is an older version of Criminal Fingers? Or did they take a recording from these sessions for the 7”? I’m wondering if this is version we haven’t heard or if they’re making the single version more widely available now. I'm guessing this is an older version. I'm by no means sure, but I think it would be weird if they released Criminal Fingers as late as they did, with Franz on it. Edit: Now that I've looked through the tracklists again, it's listed along with Touchless and Ascension Blues. That would indicate that this is the Criminal Fingers version on the 7", the one we've allready heard, and that it is - as you say - being made more available now. Otherwise you would think it would be listed among the other Avatar Sessions tracks.
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Oct 20, 2020 6:01:34 GMT -5
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Post by doctoracula on Oct 20, 2020 6:01:34 GMT -5
I thought, when the 7” came out, they said something about it being the first record with Steve on it. But I may have made that up? Maybe they started recording it at the HiW sessions and finished it later? The credits on the 7” don’t say a lot, but they do show Dean Baltulonis as recording the song.
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Post by muzzleofbees on Oct 20, 2020 7:44:59 GMT -5
I thought, when the 7” came out, they said something about it being the first record with Steve on it. But I may have made that up? Maybe they started recording it at the HiW sessions and finished it later? The credits on the 7” don’t say a lot, but they do show Dean Baltulonis as recording the song. I think that could be right. And I think it's included here not as a Heaven Is Whenever track per se, but as a song from that era who has yet to be released as other than a 7". Even if it came out way after Heaven Is Whenever, it could have been recorded earlier, and just being pulled out of the bag to fill up a 7" when The Bear And The Maiden Fair was being released. That production credit does at least separate it from the Teeth Dreams sessions. Maybe they just felt the song belonged more to the HiW era than anything later.
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Post by muzzleofbees on Oct 20, 2020 7:48:25 GMT -5
Just pre-ordered the coloured vinyl. Kinda wish I’d got a bundle but how many more THS tees do I need? I say trying to convince myself. Psyched to finally get to hear Going on a Hike. I’ve only heard a poor quality YouTube video of it previously and didn’t see them on the HiW tour. Another regret. I listened to the album again earlier and honestly think it’s the hidden gem in the back catalogue. Whenever we do a ranking on here it always seems to come in higher than I would have thought. I actually saw them a bunch (relatively speaking, and taking into account they've only played in the country I live in twice) of times during this era. One of my best live memories is from End Of The Road in september 2009, in what I think was the last European show with Franz before he left. I remember getting my hands on a bootleg from just a few days earlier right before I left, which included both Our Whole Lives and Separate Vacations, and being able to sing along to them at End Of The Road. They played Goin On A Hike too. As far as festival shows go, it was pretty much perfect. I also saw them in Amsterdam in June 2010, and in London the day after. Even the Dublin show in 2011 felt like a Heaven Is Whenever era show. When they finally played in Oslo in August 2012, if felt like they have moved on, and they even played an early version of The Only Thing. I have a really soft spot for Heaven Is Whenever. It's not flawless, and it's unfair to compare them to the first three records, which all is pretty much perfect to me. But I love that sparkly and bright sound. I wouldn't want them to sound like this for an entire career, and I probably wouldn't have fallen in love with them if this was the first record I heard. But it's a nice addition to the catalogue, something a little bit different. A slightly failed attempt (?) to be more poppy, but still a thrilling mix of bright and shiny pop sound and very guitar-y stuff. Also, Sweet Part Of The City has a vibe few other songs in their catalogue have, and I think I would enjoyed an entire album in that style. A Slight Discomfort is also pretty unique, so bottomless dark, both in theme and sound. It's not the most enjoyable song to listen to, but it has something special. Our Whole Lives is still one of my favourite tracks overall, and I dig the straight-forwardness in Rock Problems. Even Barely Breathing and The Smidge have som amazing parts in it. Probably a contender for the 4th best THS album spot for me, though I think Thrashing might be slightly better.
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Oct 20, 2020 9:03:27 GMT -5
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Post by doctoracula on Oct 20, 2020 9:03:27 GMT -5
“Bottomless dark” is a really good way to describe A Slight Discomfort. It’s probably the bleakest song in their catalog, and it’s a huge bummer of a closer for the record. That’s kinda why I like it so much. It’s the antithesis of How a Resurrection Really Feels. It’s them showing they can look into the darkness just as well as they can point towards the light.
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Post by charlie on Oct 20, 2020 14:21:41 GMT -5
I'm starting to realize that this isn't my least-favorite THS album. Not that 'least-favorite' is bad per se, when you're talking about your favorite band. One of them has to be.
I've got some great memories tied to the time when the singles had hit waiting for it to leak (it was 2010, those were different times) and after it came out officially. My sister and I both got married that spring.
Sweet Part, Barely Breathing, Our Whole Lives, Hurricane J, and Weekenders are all among of my favorites from the catalog.
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