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Post by muzzleofbees on Jan 30, 2019 11:26:07 GMT -5
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Post by bigontheinside on Jan 30, 2019 12:55:45 GMT -5
Nice! I like that single on first listen. Doesn't blow me away but I'm sure it'll grow on me. Interesting that he says these 3 albums are about the same people, I wonder how literally he meant that.
There's a ton of pre-order options on craigfinn.net, including a lyric book that looks really cool (but pricey, especially if you buy it on it's own for some reason?)
If you buy the album through there rather than Bandcamp it seems like you get a 5 song EP as a digital download, like the past 2 albums! Which is good to hear since 'Punk Is Not A Fair Fight' isn't on the main tracklisting
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Post by bobsacamano on Jan 30, 2019 14:40:53 GMT -5
The pricing in the digital store can't be right - you can buy the pin set with digital album (and EP) for $7. That's $3 cheaper than just buying the digital album on its own. You can also get the tote with the digital album and EP for $10.
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Post by skepticatfirst on Jan 30, 2019 15:46:56 GMT -5
Ordered.
Nice poster, too. Could never tell whether the thrushes of Arms and Hearts were "russet" or what, but maybe that's right after all; robins are thrushes. (Don't like the sound of that foyer, though.)
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Post by muzzleofbees on Jan 30, 2019 15:57:49 GMT -5
Ordered the total deluxe thing myself. Barely buy any records anymore, so €100 for a expansive Craig Finn package is allright.
I like Blankets too. It remind me of the sound of a band I really like, but I can't quite pinpoint it. Very americana, in a very specific way. Not like parts of Clear Heart Full Eyes, who flirted more with country/bluegrass.
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Post by timrowbotham on Jan 30, 2019 16:36:58 GMT -5
Love the new track. Harmonica on it has Craig sounding more like Bruce than ever.
Really like the refrain "When it thunders in the canyon / you get the feeling you're too small." Has a bit of a DBT feel to it, imo.
"When we got to the Twin Cities / I said 'Man, I know some songs about this place'" - Craig is so self-referential at this point I think the universe might be at risk of folding in on itself. And I'm 100% there for it.
Now, to decide what package to order. I'm on the Marie Kondo kick, desperately trying to de-clutter my tiny flat, but £95 for a bunch of cool, signed CF shit is pretty damn reasonable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 18:51:08 GMT -5
This feels...almost funky? But kinda rootsy? I really like it. It feels warm. And the lyrics are great.
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Post by Rattlesnake Gospel on Jan 31, 2019 10:58:30 GMT -5
My favorite of his pre-release singles yet.
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Post by kayfaberaven on Jan 31, 2019 12:20:49 GMT -5
Hmmm...since I'm not in the US I can't order the digital download directly from Craig's store. I can order through bandcamp, but (1) I would have preferred to order directly; and (2) I won't get the EP. Also, I was going to buy the Be Honest toque as well. Damn.
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Post by muzzleofbees on Jan 31, 2019 14:51:09 GMT -5
My favorite of his pre-release singles yet. Mine too - if we talk about how I felt about the single before the album arrived. Newmyer's Roof didn nothing for me when I first heard it, but it has grown to one of my favourites from Craig's solo catalog. A bit of the same thing with Preludes, actually. I'm still not 100% sold on it, but I didn't like it at all at release, and for a long time I thought of it as the weakest track on WAWTST. Now I like it a lot. |
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Post by Rattlesnake Gospel on Jan 31, 2019 15:15:55 GMT -5
My favorite of his pre-release singles yet. Mine too - if we talk about how I felt about the single before the album arrived. Newmyer's Roof didn nothing for me when I first heard it, but it has grown to one of my favourites from Craig's solo catalog. A bit of the same thing with Preludes, actually. I'm still not 100% sold on it, but I didn't like it at all at release, and for a long time I thought of it as the weakest track on WAWTST. Now I like it a lot. I am much the same. "Blankets" is the first that grabbed me immediately and made me look forward to the album release. Truth be told though, while I enjoy Craig's solo work, I wish my brain were able to disassociate it/him with THS. I enjoy his solo records but tend to think whilst listening "It's good but it's not THS." It's dumb, and I hate that I feel that way. They're brilliant songs and if it were another band altogether I'd probably be able to get into it a lot more. Doesn't make much sense; I can enjoy, say, some of Ryan Adams' solo records having been a huge Whiskeytown fan, but maybe that's because I never got to get swept up in live WT shows and all that. Who knows. |
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Post by muzzleofbees on Jan 31, 2019 15:43:45 GMT -5
Truth be told though, while I enjoy Craig's solo work, I wish my brain were able to disassociate it/him with THS. I enjoy his solo records but tend to think whilst listening "It's good but it's not THS." It's dumb, and I hate that I feel that way. They're brilliant songs and if it were another band altogether I'd probably be able to get into it a lot more. Doesn't make much sense; I can enjoy, say, some of Ryan Adams' solo records having been a huge Whiskeytown fan, but maybe that's because I never got to get swept up in live WT shows and all that. Who knows. It's not hard to imagine people feel that way. And I think Craig/Hold Steady is more tied to each other than many other bands/singers, because of the characteristic vocal and lyrical style. I had the same feeling on CHFE, but those last two albums made me really, really appreciate his solo work in its own right. I think he has found himself a distinct sound who sounds very much like Craig, and not so much as a soft or subdued version of Hold Steady. He just sound so much more confident than on the debut. Ironically, when I hear some of the new Hold Steady songs now, I sort of think of them as a more elborate version of Craig's solo material. I'm really glad I'm able to switch between them. It wasn't given that it would be like that for me. |
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Post by Sunny D on Feb 1, 2019 3:30:02 GMT -5
I'm loving "Blankets" and I'm so excited for the new album! The last two albums have been incredible and I'm glad to hear that Craig considers this one to be in the same grouping.
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Post by timrowbotham on Feb 1, 2019 8:23:47 GMT -5
Truth be told though, while I enjoy Craig's solo work, I wish my brain were able to disassociate it/him with THS. I enjoy his solo records but tend to think whilst listening "It's good but it's not THS." It's dumb, and I hate that I feel that way. They're brilliant songs and if it were another band altogether I'd probably be able to get into it a lot more. Doesn't make much sense; I can enjoy, say, some of Ryan Adams' solo records having been a huge Whiskeytown fan, but maybe that's because I never got to get swept up in live WT shows and all that. Who knows. It's not hard to imagine people feel that way. And I think Craig/Hold Steady is more tied to each other than many other bands/singers, because of the characteristic vocal and lyrical style. I had the same feeling on CHFE, but those last two albums made me really, really appreciate his solo work in its own right. I think he has found himself a distinct sound who sounds very much like Craig, and not so much as a soft or subdued version of Hold Steady. He just sound so much more confident than on the debut. Ironically, when I hear some of the new Hold Steady songs now, I sort of think of them as a more elborate version of Craig's solo material. I'm really glad I'm able to switch between them. It wasn't given that it would be like that for me. Likewise, each new album from Craig I'm able to mentally separate from THS a little bit more. Probably helps that the solo albums have been getting progressively better and better. That said, before this slew of new THS singles, each solo album that came out I wished would be the last for a while, so we could get some more THS material. So yeah, really appreciate the solo stuff, still hungry for more full band releases. If this format of THS singles, weekenders, and solo albums means that we get a steady stream of band and solo material then I'm all for it. Long may it continue. |
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Post by Rattlesnake Gospel on Feb 1, 2019 9:22:22 GMT -5
All good points, though for me it's not even about new THS releases. There was a time when I didn't really want them to release anything else; "Oaks" is a brilliant album closer and such a tragically beautiful note for them to go out on. That long instrumental fade out sounded, to me, like the band riding off into the sunset. Then came "Entitlement Crew," a slew of great singles and of course I didn't feel that way anymore. And I'm cool with the residencies instead of full-fledged touring, mostly because we have a kid now, money is tighter and we can't afford to travel to as many shows as we used to. So that all worked out well for us, ha.
I'll always enjoy & appreciate Craig's solo records; they're brilliant and great listens, but I fear they just won't do for me what THS records/shows have done, because THS is just one of those bands that transformed & defined one of the best eras of my life. They're the first band my wife and I got into together when we started dating almost 15 years ago. Joe Strummer's work with the Mescaleros was great, and I enjoy some Big Audio Dynamite on occasion but those bands just ain't the Clash.
All of that in mind, I've listened to "Blankets" about 10 times in the past 24 hours, so who knows.
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Post by skepticatfirst on Feb 2, 2019 10:05:20 GMT -5
Branching out into Lifter Puller and the solo stuff at the same time has really brought home for me how much Craig has left behind his signature tools --- wild alliteration and rhymes, falling on and off the beat, epic narrative, bizarre metaphors, a volume dial that goes from 0 to 11, etc. etc. --- in order to tell these quiet solo stories. Sometimes what's left is strong or subtle enough to keep me coming back anyway. But it's hard not to make comparisons.
Preludes is a prime example for me too: those long, sing-songy lines on top of kind of an aimless melody seemed really weak at first. But the lyrics have kept me listening, and I've come around to liking it. There are other songs that have come off strong right away, like Jester and June (still my favorite on WAWtST) or Tracking Shots, and Blankets is good too. I'm psyched to hear the rest of what's coming.
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Post by bry on Feb 2, 2019 20:06:29 GMT -5
Anyone interested in splitting one of the bigger preorder bundles? Mostly interested in the lyric book, but can't bring myself to spend $50+shipping on it when the bundle of everything is only $100. Send me a message if you are.
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Post by nosferatu on Feb 5, 2019 12:22:48 GMT -5
. I like Blankets too. It remind me of the sound of a band I really like, but I can't quite pinpoint it. Very americana, in a very specific way. Not like parts of Clear Heart Full Eyes, who flirted more with country/bluegrass. Sounds like a cross between Richmond Fontaine, Marah and The Mystery Jets’ album “Radlands” to me... great work. |
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Post by gunnerbill on Feb 7, 2019 21:14:07 GMT -5
His solo songs dont hit me right away like THS stuff does...
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Post by gunnerbill on Feb 7, 2019 21:18:59 GMT -5
But I think he is the most underrated lyricist ever in Rock
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 2:36:54 GMT -5
But I think he is the most underrated lyricist ever in Rock John Darnielle, on a very old LIFTER PULLER blurb on Pitchfork, said he ‘makes every other rock lyricist look like ametuer hour at a poetry slam’. As a terrible slam poet myself, who’s met other THS fans in the slam poetry scene, he’s 100% correct. The only modern lyricist who can match Craig is, in my opinion, John Darnielle. John just gets way more attention and fans. |
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Post by Sunny D on Feb 12, 2019 21:45:51 GMT -5
But I think he is the most underrated lyricist ever in Rock John Darnielle, on a very old LIFTER PULLER blurb on Pitchfork, said he ‘makes every other rock lyricist look like ametuer hour at a poetry slam’. As a terrible slam poet myself, who’s met other THS fans in the slam poetry scene, he’s 100% correct. The only modern lyricist who can match Craig is, in my opinion, John Darnielle. John just gets way more attention and fans. THIS. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 5:06:05 GMT -5
Craig and Patrick Stickles did an interview and the lyricsists they admire are Parquet Courts, who I don’t listen to, and Courtney Barnett, who makes me proud to be Australian. And who came up with the line ‘i’m having an existential Time Crisis’.
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