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Post by orzelc on Dec 11, 2018 8:08:50 GMT -5
There's some discussion of this going on elsewhere, but it probably rates its own top-level thread, so...
A few things after a couple of days listening to the digital version of the reissue:
-- The extra backing vocal on "Constructive Summer" is really weird. Not sure what's up with that. I don't notice any unfamiliar parts on the other tracks.
-- Somehow, despite having bought this originally from vendors who now sell versions with bonus tracks, I didn't have versions of any of the extra tracks until now, so I'm psyched to get those. There's some interesting twists on their basic sound in those (which maybe ties in to the Franz comments in the "These Miracles Work" podcast...).
-- "Ballad of the Midnight Hauler" is a banger, though I can see why it doesn't fit on any of the albums.
-- Regarding the demos, it's interesting to hear how mumbly the vocals are on a lot of them. Which makes sense, because I think Craig's game-on shout/singing style probably takes a lot of energy that's not really worth expending on a demo track. I've been to a couple of sound checks in Brooklyn, and there's a similar vibe there-- this year, he was low-key enough that I was wondering if he was slightly sick.
-- Also interesting to hear how many of the demo versions have a LOT more words than the album versions. "Sequestered" in particular lost a lot of lyrics between demo and studio, and there was a bunch of additional stuff in "Cutters" that I can't quite make out due to the mumbly thing mentioned earlier. The studio versions are mostly better for the cuts, though there's the occasional brilliant bit (a line about "stiff drinks and rigid fingers" in "Sequestered" in particular).
Anyway, a good package of stuff. Between this and the Philly live show, plenty of stuff to listen to until it's time to switch over to Christmas music...
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Post by cre618 on Dec 11, 2018 10:08:42 GMT -5
There's some discussion of this going on elsewhere, but it probably rates its own top-level thread, so... -- The extra backing vocal on "Constructive Summer" is really weird. Not sure what's up with that. I don't notice any unfamiliar parts on the other tracks. Yep, as I mentioned in the other thread, these aren't on the vinyl edition, so it seems to be a weird mess up. Agreed on so much great stuff for us Unified Scene-ers these days. Loving every bit. Jack |
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Post by chinaski on Dec 11, 2018 10:59:01 GMT -5
I've not made my way through the demos properly yet but I'm loving the bonus tracks. Hauler, like you said, is a straight up banger. I've never seen it live before and now it's probably the one I want to hear most.
I've heard some of the bonus tracks before but am really happy to have them all properly now. I've always really liked the lyrics to Spectres (Specters? Spectors!?). It feels like a real oddball in the THS canon musically but I get a lot out of it - melodrama and all.
Maybe our anxiety
lives in the spaces in between
who we really are
and what we want to be
and the things that we let other people see
when all we really want
is to be on magazines...
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Post by kayfaberaven on Dec 11, 2018 11:14:36 GMT -5
I've not made my way through the demos properly yet but I'm loving the bonus tracks. Hauler, like you said, is a straight up banger. I've never seen it live before and now it's probably the one I want to hear most. [/i][/quote] They played it in Brooklyn this year, which was nice. But I missed the Thursday Brooklyn show, when they played "Hot Fries", so that's probably my white whale now (well, that or "Oaks", which I doubt will happen.) |
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Post by mikenasty on Dec 11, 2018 15:33:24 GMT -5
I just got my vinyl in today but it doesn't have a link to the digital downloads. Do we not get the digital with the vinyl?
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Post by orzelc on Dec 11, 2018 17:21:21 GMT -5
I've not made my way through the demos properly yet but I'm loving the bonus tracks. Hauler, like you said, is a straight up banger. I've never seen it live before and now it's probably the one I want to hear most. [/i][/quote] They played it in Brooklyn this year, which was nice. But I missed the Thursday Brooklyn show, when they played "Hot Fries", so that's probably my white whale now (well, that or "Oaks", which I doubt will happen.)[/quote] They did Hot Fries at the sound check on Friday in Brooklyn, which counts as, like, 80% of actually seeing it in a show. I think "Curves and Nerves" would be awesome to see live, but Rob Sheffield said he'd asked for it, and they said they really didn't remember it well enough to perform at the moment. |
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Post by john k on Dec 11, 2018 18:42:19 GMT -5
I just got my vinyl in today but it doesn't have a link to the digital downloads. Do we not get the digital with the vinyl?[/quote Nope |
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Post by TKalltheTime on Dec 14, 2018 17:53:37 GMT -5
There's some discussion of this going on elsewhere, but it probably rates its own top-level thread, so... A few things after a couple of days listening to the digital version of the reissue: -- The extra backing vocal on "Constructive Summer" is really weird. Not sure what's up with that. I don't notice any unfamiliar parts on the other tracks.-- Somehow, despite having bought this originally from vendors who now sell versions with bonus tracks, I didn't have versions of any of the extra tracks until now, so I'm psyched to get those. There's some interesting twists on their basic sound in those (which maybe ties in to the Franz comments in the "These Miracles Work" podcast...). -- "Ballad of the Midnight Hauler" is a banger, though I can see why it doesn't fit on any of the albums. -- Regarding the demos, it's interesting to hear how mumbly the vocals are on a lot of them. Which makes sense, because I think Craig's game-on shout/singing style probably takes a lot of energy that's not really worth expending on a demo track. I've been to a couple of sound checks in Brooklyn, and there's a similar vibe there-- this year, he was low-key enough that I was wondering if he was slightly sick. -- Also interesting to hear how many of the demo versions have a LOT more words than the album versions. "Sequestered" in particular lost a lot of lyrics between demo and studio, and there was a bunch of additional stuff in "Cutters" that I can't quite make out due to the mumbly thing mentioned earlier. The studio versions are mostly better for the cuts, though there's the occasional brilliant bit (a line about "stiff drinks and rigid fingers" in "Sequestered" in particular). Anyway, a good package of stuff. Between this and the Philly live show, plenty of stuff to listen to until it's time to switch over to Christmas music... Maybe this was always there but the old mix was so bad or muddied up it got lost?! haha It is pretty jarring when you know the song so well and hear this version. Or perhaps they just wanted a new mix, etc?! Weird ha |
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Post by bigontheinside on Dec 14, 2018 18:39:19 GMT -5
well, that or "Oaks", which I doubt will happen. Not to get too off topic here, but seeing Oaks live was one of my favourite live experiences. I adore that song, and did not expect them to play it. They also stopped at the "and we dream..." part, which worked great for the live show since that song is so long. Really brave choice for the first song of an encore too, especially in front of such an energetic, moshy crowd. There's a video here |
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Post by TKalltheTime on Dec 14, 2018 19:18:19 GMT -5
I've not made my way through the demos properly yet but I'm loving the bonus tracks. Hauler, like you said, is a straight up banger. I've never seen it live before and now it's probably the one I want to hear most. [/i][/quote] (well, that or "Oaks", which I doubt will happen.)[/quote] Was lucky enough to hear oaks in 2014 in vegas! |
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Post by kayfaberaven on Dec 15, 2018 23:40:13 GMT -5
Was lucky enough to hear oaks in 2014 in vegas! ...and? I can imagine it being awesome, or not very awesome at all. |
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Post by TKalltheTime on Dec 16, 2018 2:09:05 GMT -5
Was lucky enough to hear oaks in 2014 in vegas! ...and? I can imagine it being awesome, or not very awesome at all. I really enjoyed it live. It was pretty emotional hearing it live. We had a really great time at that whole show. |
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Post by ilockyer on Dec 16, 2018 10:22:47 GMT -5
...and? I can imagine it being awesome, or not very awesome at all. I really enjoyed it live. It was pretty emotional hearing it live. We had a really great time at that whol show. Saw it at the Bristol, UK show in 2014. As an opener to the encore was pretty damn awesome. Had been hoping to hear it but really didn't expect to. They did it in Chicago in 2017, so there's always hope it might appear again one day! |
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Post by timrowbotham on Jan 10, 2019 7:51:55 GMT -5
There's some discussion of this going on elsewhere, but it probably rates its own top-level thread, so... A few things after a couple of days listening to the digital version of the reissue: -- The extra backing vocal on "Constructive Summer" is really weird. Not sure what's up with that. I don't notice any unfamiliar parts on the other tracks. -- Somehow, despite having bought this originally from vendors who now sell versions with bonus tracks, I didn't have versions of any of the extra tracks until now, so I'm psyched to get those. There's some interesting twists on their basic sound in those (which maybe ties in to the Franz comments in the "These Miracles Work" podcast...). -- "Ballad of the Midnight Hauler" is a banger, though I can see why it doesn't fit on any of the albums. -- Regarding the demos, it's interesting to hear how mumbly the vocals are on a lot of them. Which makes sense, because I think Craig's game-on shout/singing style probably takes a lot of energy that's not really worth expending on a demo track. I've been to a couple of sound checks in Brooklyn, and there's a similar vibe there-- this year, he was low-key enough that I was wondering if he was slightly sick. -- Also interesting to hear how many of the demo versions have a LOT more words than the album versions. "Sequestered" in particular lost a lot of lyrics between demo and studio, and there was a bunch of additional stuff in "Cutters" that I can't quite make out due to the mumbly thing mentioned earlier. The studio versions are mostly better for the cuts, though there's the occasional brilliant bit (a line about "stiff drinks and rigid fingers" in "Sequestered" in particular). Anyway, a good package of stuff. Between this and the Philly live show, plenty of stuff to listen to until it's time to switch over to Christmas music... Just now getting round to listening to the digital reissue, totally agree with everything here. Extra vocals on CS are weird, I'm so glad that mix isn't on the vinyl! Hauler is a killer track, would love to hear it live (fingers crossed for the London shows!). Pretty much all the cuts from the demos on the studio versions are for the better. Always love listening to demos, to see how songs evolve, and there's some neat stuff in Sequestered and Cutter, but cutting out that extra verse in Sequestered and having a proper repeating chorus was a good decision. I think Craig talks about the sing-along chorus on SP on the Miracles podcast, pretty cool to see those edits in process in the re-release. |
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Post by robs on Jan 11, 2019 10:15:57 GMT -5
...and? I can imagine it being awesome, or not very awesome at all. I really enjoyed it live. It was pretty emotional hearing it live. We had a really great time at that whole show. Played in it Newcastle in 2014 (and Saddle Shoes!) |
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Post by mtruslow on Feb 21, 2019 14:08:05 GMT -5
Is there a cd or hi resolution download to this besides the shitty Itunes version?
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Post by mtruslow on Feb 23, 2019 10:35:38 GMT -5
Ah never mind. I found it on 7 digital. 20.00 bucks for a FLAC download.
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Post by mtruslow on Mar 10, 2019 1:14:07 GMT -5
And of course, I paid the 20.00 tonight for it. It's by far my favorite Hold Steady album.............I loved the demo of "Sequestered In Memphis" especially the line ".......she didn't mention no boyfriend......" Very funny.
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Post by mtruslow on Mar 10, 2019 1:21:55 GMT -5
The only disappointment, no physical version of the album.
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Post by TKalltheTime on Apr 3, 2019 18:20:41 GMT -5
Hey everyone, just a heads up my replacement sleeves for the LPs came today. So keeep an eye out and if they arent there yet, I'm sure they will arrive soon!  |
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Post by gunnerbill on Apr 15, 2019 16:06:49 GMT -5
I wish You Tremble was longer, I love that one...
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Post by thunderroad on May 15, 2019 13:29:22 GMT -5
Mine never arrived.....anyone else still waiting?
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