robs
Hoodrat
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Post by robs on Mar 31, 2017 9:46:23 GMT -5
I'm really liking this, even though it makes me feel strangely melancholic and quite nostalgic - there are parts that remind me of some of Lloyd Cole's earlier stuff (maybe imagining that - I'm seeing him next Friday). Maybe it's my impending middle age and recognition that much of the subject matter feels applicable. I love the lush sounds and I think the backing vocals really work (Birds Trapped in the Airport is sublime).
But what purpose is the flute(?) serving on Preludes? I really don't like it - anyone else?
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Post by pizzapants on Mar 31, 2017 10:37:23 GMT -5
I think "Tracking Shots" is a nod to Drive-by Truckers' "The Righteous Path", which interestingly has a potential nod to THS in it. Used to think it was coincidental in the DBT song, but maybe not now.
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Post by delboydrums on Mar 31, 2017 11:14:21 GMT -5
I'm really liking this, even though it makes me feel strangely melancholic and quite nostalgic - there are parts that remind me of some of Lloyd Cole's earlier stuff (maybe imagining that - I'm seeing him next Friday). Maybe it's my impending middle age and recognition that much of the subject matter feels applicable. I love the lush sounds and I think the backing vocals really work (Birds Trapped in the Airport is sublime). But what purpose is the flute(?) serving on Preludes? I really don't like it - anyone else? I suppose it's just a hook / riff? I actually really like it (very whistleable). Lovin the Lloyd Cole reference - I hadn't thought of that! Loved them, back in the 80s
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Post by lukeindetroit on Mar 31, 2017 12:14:02 GMT -5
But what purpose is the flute(?) serving on Preludes? I really don't like it - anyone else? I agree, super annoying I'm also not getting the love for Birds Trapped in the Airport. The Postal Service fuckin sucks. So did all the music in "Drive" Other 8 songs are fantastic though
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Post by thebambino on Mar 31, 2017 12:17:48 GMT -5
I think "Tracking Shots" is a nod to Drive-by Truckers' "The Righteous Path", which interestingly has a potential nod to THS in it. Used to think it was coincidental in the DBT song, but maybe not now. i'm missing the HS nod from TRP...?
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Post by Rattlesnake Gospel on Mar 31, 2017 12:23:00 GMT -5
I think "Tracking Shots" is a nod to Drive-by Truckers' "The Righteous Path", which interestingly has a potential nod to THS in it. Used to think it was coincidental in the DBT song, but maybe not now. I always thought it was intentional. Brighter Than Creation's Dark came out the same year as the Rock & Roll Means Well tour so I assumed it was a fun little nod to THS given their impending tour plans.
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john k
Midnight Hauler
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Post by john k on Mar 31, 2017 12:24:40 GMT -5
The truckers said it at the time that it was a nod to their touring buds
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Post by thebambino on Mar 31, 2017 17:37:23 GMT -5
The truckers said it at the time that it was a nod to their touring buds cool. love that record and that song has always meant a ton to me. one of hood's best compositions for sure.
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Post by dmwhalen on Mar 31, 2017 18:50:51 GMT -5
Love the entire album. I was coming in to comment about Tracking Shots being my favorite track. I'm a big DBT fan and missed the connection.
Those of you who caught the R&R Means Well Tour were quite fortunate.
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Post by doctoracula on Mar 31, 2017 19:40:30 GMT -5
i don't really hear the postal service in "birds" at all. the vocals were what i disliked about the postal service, though, so maybe without that i don't mind the style that much?
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Post by Rattlesnake Gospel on Mar 31, 2017 21:31:07 GMT -5
I think "Tracking Shots" is a nod to Drive-by Truckers' "The Righteous Path", which interestingly has a potential nod to THS in it. Used to think it was coincidental in the DBT song, but maybe not now. i'm missing the HS nod from TRP...? "Trying to hold steady on the righteous path"
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Post by thebambino on Apr 1, 2017 17:43:04 GMT -5
i'm missing the HS nod from TRP...? "Trying to hold steady on the righteous path" thanks, was so obvious it slipped right by...
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Post by somuchjoy on Apr 3, 2017 14:34:31 GMT -5
strangely melancholic and quite nostalgic Mmhmm. Like the original Preludes. So in one song title, we get gangster hondas, required college poetry, a Zevon collection of pre-77 demos, AND, the autobiographical orchestral intro to the Holly opera, with craig gushing blood from a metal bike lock to the head on the banks of the mississippi. Pretty stellar effort here. Enough to get me to drag my ass back in here for this post, at least.
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Post by saintjoe on Apr 4, 2017 16:57:39 GMT -5
So, I've listened to it twice since I got it the other day. I'll listen to it a few more times and then, if it grabs me, I'll keep listening to it. If it doesn't, I'll put it away for awhile. Long way of saying, it's too early for me to make any real judgments on it.
Having said that, I always felt that FITF was more complex and layered musically than CHFE, and now this new album is even more complex and layered musically than FITF. WAWTST is filled with backing vocals, electronics, keyboards and other sounds that will take awhile to fully appreciate. I'd almost want to call some of the effects on these songs 'random' (like the flute on Preludes, as someone else mentioned), except none of it is random. It's the work of a very good songwriter, who is free to do things as a solo artist that maybe he can't do in the band.
Comparing it to FITF, I'm not sure if this new album has as many really good songs (understanding that this is totally subjective) as on the prior album. But there are 2 or 3 songs on FITF that I'm not too crazy about, and I'm not hearing any songs on this album that I would say the same thing about. So it may not as many highs as FITF, but it also doesn't have as many lows.
I do miss the hard guitars of THS; some of Finn's solo stuff gets dangerously close to "easy listening" music for me, in a Van Morrison kind of way.
Early candidates for favorite songs are Ninety Bucks and Tracking Shots.
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TKalltheTime
Sniffling Indie Kid
Blotto / Blacked Out / Cracked Out / Caved In
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Post by TKalltheTime on Apr 6, 2017 22:34:59 GMT -5
Better than CHFE not as good front to back as FITF... at least how I am slotting it right now.
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Post by kayfaberaven on May 2, 2017 11:51:39 GMT -5
WAWTST has grown on me more and more with each listen. Almost every song is catchy, each in a different way.
One thing is driving me crazy on God in Chicago, where the lyric is:
"It's roughly the size of a baseball I said I wasn't totally sure, but yeah I could probably call someone"
I'm curious why Craig didn't end the second line with "but yeah I could probably make a call" for the rhyme. But knowing how meticulous Craig is, he likely avoided a rhyme because of the spoken word nature of the song.
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