mattjs
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Post by mattjs on May 5, 2016 10:18:38 GMT -5
I don't want to count my chickens etc but I'm assuming that they will do a UK show...probably London could be Manchester given the Unified Scene-type links....or maybe just Howard's house!
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parock
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Post by parock on May 5, 2016 10:46:06 GMT -5
Hi guys.
This is great news. Pretty excited to see what comes of it.
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Post by xcalvinx on May 5, 2016 11:28:45 GMT -5
I'm happy even if it's a 3 night run in NYC or something like that, I'll be there. I got into this band just as Franz left and still have not had an opportunity to see them. I figure if I'm gonna see this band, these shows will be the time for me to do it.
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Post by dhartley34 on May 5, 2016 12:42:07 GMT -5
I got into them in high school right after BAGIA came out but didn't get a chance to see them until the Portland, ME show on the Teeth Dreams tour. Best show I've ever seen, can't even imagine how much better it will be with the 6-man lineup.
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Post by sactochris on May 5, 2016 12:51:01 GMT -5
This is very good news.
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Post by muzzleofbees on May 5, 2016 13:39:42 GMT -5
Top stuff!! Even though I guess this means US dates, and US dates only. A little kid makes a trip across the sea a bit challenging, both time wise and money wise. But I would love to do it.
Finally getting the news, and also knowing that I might not be able to go at all, actually makes me grateful being able to see Hold Steady two times in the Franz era. Allthough I would love to come over, I can live without doing it. And that's sort of calming.
Nice with reissues as well! I think I picked up the last normal priced copy of Separation Sunday on the entire internet (12 bucks from some random webshop in the fall of 2007), but I payed triple digit dollars for Almost Killed Me. Then again, I'm not bitter - after starting to collect all the releases, I probably would have wanted that first pressing anyways.
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Eric
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Post by Eric on May 5, 2016 14:39:45 GMT -5
Why does everyone keep assuming they're not coming to the UK? Look through this thread, a massive chunk of the fan base are from here. THS, and Franz, always seem to love visiting the UK so I think it's highly improbable that they won't come. Then again I've been wrong once on this thread.
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Post by delboydrums on May 5, 2016 15:20:09 GMT -5
We shall live I hope - at least for the next two weeks.
Staying positive.
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Post by Rich Tarbell on May 5, 2016 16:19:34 GMT -5
Why does everyone keep assuming they're not coming to the UK? Look through this thread, a massive chunk of the fan base are from here. THS, and Franz, always seem to love visiting the UK so I think it's highly improbable that they won't come. Then again I've been wrong once on this thread. It is a matter of economics. As I said before, there is nothing new to promote and sell so there would be minimal income outside of ticket sales. Now, assuming you could even get enough promoters/venues interested to put something together overseas for a band who has not been together as a touring outfit in nearly two years and has no new music - try to figure out how many shows at what ticket price and what attendance minimums would be necessary to cover: roundtrip trans-Atlantic flights with luggage overages for a band of six and skeleton crew of three, lodging and food for these nine people, wages for these nine people who probably want to be paid at least what their current home jobs do at least, rental equipment, ground transportation, fuel, a driver, manager fees, publicist fees, tour booker fees, etc etc etc. Remember there is no record company to front this money before one dime of ticket revenue is paid out. Now, who's credit card do we want to put this on? Bottom line, unless Noel Gallagher or Johnny Marr are on the THS email list and they call Tad this week and ask him and his band to open a run of shows, I would not hold my breath for THS in the U.K. this year. Again I only offer my opinion because I think this 6 day ramp up to an "announcement" has unfortunately stoked the excitement levels of many fans a little too hard. Take their statement "playing a limited number of live shows this fall" literally and hope it parlays into something bigger in 2017 or 2018.
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Post by somuchjoy on May 5, 2016 16:21:10 GMT -5
In which tourbus has access to internet but lacks digital dexterity. www.google.com/maps/dir/The+Bowery+Ballroom,+Delancey+Street,+New+York,+NY/The+Stone+Pony,+Ocean+Avenue,+Asbury+Park,+NJ/@40.4941604,-74.4250312,10z/am=t/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c259863914052d:0x1e5c3eb315d217d4!2m2!1d-73.9933583!2d40.7204065!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c2264189c79537:0x3205d246fb2369ec!2m2!1d-74.0008512!2d40.2199971
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Post by delboydrums on May 5, 2016 17:04:19 GMT -5
Why does everyone keep assuming they're not coming to the UK? Look through this thread, a massive chunk of the fan base are from here. THS, and Franz, always seem to love visiting the UK so I think it's highly improbable that they won't come. Then again I've been wrong once on this thread. It is a matter of economics. As I said before, there is nothing new to promote and sell so there would be minimal income outside of ticket sales. Now, assuming you could even get enough promoters/venues interested to put something together overseas for a band who has not been together as a touring outfit in nearly two years and has no new music - try to figure out how many shows at what ticket price and what attendance minimums would be necessary to cover: roundtrip trans-Atlantic flights with luggage overages for a band of six and skeleton crew of three, lodging and food for these nine people, wages for these nine people who probably want to be paid at least what their current home jobs do at least, rental equipment, ground transportation, fuel, a driver, manager fees, publicist fees, tour booker fees, etc etc etc. Remember there is no record company to front this money before one dime of ticket revenue is paid out. Now, who's credit card do we want to put this on? Bottom line, unless Noel Gallagher or Johnny Marr are on the THS email list and they call Tad this week and ask him and his band to open a run of shows, I would not hold my breath for THS in the U.K. this year. Again I only offer my opinion because I think this 6 day ramp up to an "announcement" has unfortunately stoked the excitement levels of many fans a little too hard. Take their statement "playing a limited number of live shows this fall" literally and hope it parlays into something bigger in 2017 or 2018. Thanks for the honesty Rich - this, of course, makes perfect sense.
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tbob
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Post by tbob on May 5, 2016 17:38:47 GMT -5
Why does everyone keep assuming they're not coming to the UK? Look through this thread, a massive chunk of the fan base are from here. THS, and Franz, always seem to love visiting the UK so I think it's highly improbable that they won't come. Then again I've been wrong once on this thread. It is a matter of economics. As I said before, there is nothing new to promote and sell so there would be minimal income outside of ticket sales. Now, assuming you could even get enough promoters/venues interested to put something together overseas for a band who has not been together as a touring outfit in nearly two years and has no new music - try to figure out how many shows at what ticket price and what attendance minimums would be necessary to cover: roundtrip trans-Atlantic flights with luggage overages for a band of six and skeleton crew of three, lodging and food for these nine people, wages for these nine people who probably want to be paid at least what their current home jobs do at least, rental equipment, ground transportation, fuel, a driver, manager fees, publicist fees, tour booker fees, etc etc etc. Remember there is no record company to front this money before one dime of ticket revenue is paid out. Now, who's credit card do we want to put this on? Bottom line, unless Noel Gallagher or Johnny Marr are on the THS email list and they call Tad this week and ask him and his band to open a run of shows, I would not hold my breath for THS in the U.K. this year. Again I only offer my opinion because I think this 6 day ramp up to an "announcement" has unfortunately stoked the excitement levels of many fans a little too hard. Take their statement "playing a limited number of live shows this fall" literally and hope it parlays into something bigger in 2017 or 2018. I'm sure we can get a Kickstarter together to fund the show and I'm in contact with Alan McGee so nothing is impossible. Come on Tarbell! What the fuck happened to "Stay Positive"?!
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howard
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Post by howard on May 5, 2016 18:37:01 GMT -5
Sadly, I have to confirm that no one has asked me if the band can come play at my house again. (although the answer will always be yes of course).
I think rich' is as on the money as ever when setting out the tough economics of the music business.
Only consolation - as Sterling is managing to put up a fight against the Dollar, it may ease the financial pain (a tiny bit) of travelling to the States to see what will doubtless be some special stuff.
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Post by Rich Tarbell on May 5, 2016 18:55:41 GMT -5
Come on Tarbell! What the fuck happened to "Stay Positive"?! I am sorry if I come across too pessimistic and rain on the parade of hope and speculation - just trying to add a some balance and equilibrium to the situation. I am staying quite positive - positive I am right and positive bigger things can potentially come of this little announcement if all goes off well.
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Post by mtruslow on May 5, 2016 19:31:42 GMT -5
Please do DC, Please do DC, Please do DC.........
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I'M THAT GUY!
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Post by I'M THAT GUY! on May 5, 2016 19:34:41 GMT -5
Come on Tarbell! What the fuck happened to "Stay Positive"?! I am sorry if I come across too pessimistic and rain on the parade of hope and speculation - just trying to add a some balance and equilibrium to the situation. I am staying quite positive - positive I am right and positive bigger things can potentially come of this little announcement if all goes off well. Sucks to be the adult in the room and hysterically happy children, right? I think you're on the money, Rich, but hoping against hope there's at least a nation-wide tour.
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Post by thebambino on May 5, 2016 20:41:43 GMT -5
Who wouldn't snag a B-side LP from the merch table for like $35-40 if they threw one together quick? I sure as hell would, even if it was a rush MP3 to LP deal...they could easily sell a thousand plus I would bet.
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tbob
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Post by tbob on May 5, 2016 21:23:43 GMT -5
Who wouldn't snag a B-side LP from the merch table for like $35-40 if they threw one together quick? I sure as hell would, even if it was a rush MP3 to LP deal...they could easily sell a thousand plus I would bet. I know we'd all love it but, c'mon, I'm not paying 40 bucks for an MP3 to LP transfer I could bootleg myself. I want a comprehensive collection with a nice cover on heavyweight vinyl for that money!
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Post by doctoracula on May 5, 2016 22:16:44 GMT -5
I'd pay that much for a 2xLP of newly mastered rarities compiled in a cool package. Hopefully with a couple unreleased treats.
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Post by buddymo on May 5, 2016 22:43:13 GMT -5
Why does everyone keep assuming they're not coming to the UK? Look through this thread, a massive chunk of the fan base are from here. THS, and Franz, always seem to love visiting the UK so I think it's highly improbable that they won't come. Then again I've been wrong once on this thread. It is a matter of economics. As I said before, there is nothing new to promote and sell so there would be minimal income outside of ticket sales. Now, assuming you could even get enough promoters/venues interested to put something together overseas for a band who has not been together as a touring outfit in nearly two years and has no new music - try to figure out how many shows at what ticket price and what attendance minimums would be necessary to cover: roundtrip trans-Atlantic flights with luggage overages for a band of six and skeleton crew of three, lodging and food for these nine people, wages for these nine people who probably want to be paid at least what their current home jobs do at least, rental equipment, ground transportation, fuel, a driver, manager fees, publicist fees, tour booker fees, etc etc etc. Remember there is no record company to front this money before one dime of ticket revenue is paid out. Now, who's credit card do we want to put this on? Bottom line, unless Noel Gallagher or Johnny Marr are on the THS email list and they call Tad this week and ask him and his band to open a run of shows, I would not hold my breath for THS in the U.K. this year. Again I only offer my opinion because I think this 6 day ramp up to an "announcement" has unfortunately stoked the excitement levels of many fans a little too hard. Take their statement "playing a limited number of live shows this fall" literally and hope it parlays into something bigger in 2017 or 2018. Does the math change if it's a festival gig(s)? Just trying to keep it pretty positive for our friends across the pond.
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Post by Rich Tarbell on May 5, 2016 22:54:37 GMT -5
It is a matter of economics. As I said before, there is nothing new to promote and sell so there would be minimal income outside of ticket sales. Now, assuming you could even get enough promoters/venues interested to put something together overseas for a band who has not been together as a touring outfit in nearly two years and has no new music - try to figure out how many shows at what ticket price and what attendance minimums would be necessary to cover: roundtrip trans-Atlantic flights with luggage overages for a band of six and skeleton crew of three, lodging and food for these nine people, wages for these nine people who probably want to be paid at least what their current home jobs do at least, rental equipment, ground transportation, fuel, a driver, manager fees, publicist fees, tour booker fees, etc etc etc. Remember there is no record company to front this money before one dime of ticket revenue is paid out. Now, who's credit card do we want to put this on? Bottom line, unless Noel Gallagher or Johnny Marr are on the THS email list and they call Tad this week and ask him and his band to open a run of shows, I would not hold my breath for THS in the U.K. this year. Again I only offer my opinion because I think this 6 day ramp up to an "announcement" has unfortunately stoked the excitement levels of many fans a little too hard. Take their statement "playing a limited number of live shows this fall" literally and hope it parlays into something bigger in 2017 or 2018. Does the math change if it's a festival gig(s)? Just trying to keep it pretty positive for our friends across the pond. As long as the festivals don't blow their budget on a ferris wheel, I guess this is always a possibility.
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Post by wealdstone on May 6, 2016 1:28:22 GMT -5
Does the math change if it's a festival gig(s)? Just trying to keep it pretty positive for our friends across the pond. As long as the festivals don't blow their budget on a ferris wheel, I guess this is always a possibility. No festivals in the UK after mid September
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Post by muzzleofbees on May 6, 2016 2:15:46 GMT -5
Who wouldn't snag a B-side LP from the merch table for like $35-40 if they threw one together quick? I sure as hell would, even if it was a rush MP3 to LP deal...they could easily sell a thousand plus I would bet. I think that's about what a $40 rarities compilation would sell - a thousand or so. And that doesn't finance a whole lot of touring. Allthough I think Rich is a bit pessimistic, I also think he's right. A european tour, or even a large scale US tour, is quite hard without the backing of a label. But I'm no expert on the economics of rock'n'roll, and Hold Steady seems to be highly regarded in the UK. Maybe a tour could pay off? The rest of Europe is a bit harder to imagine. I went to Cologne to se them in 2014, and the 3-400 capacity room was sadly not even sold out. My dream of getting to se them in Norway once more seems distant right now. But we have shows confirmed! And records to be (re-)released! That's a good thing.
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Post by robs on May 6, 2016 3:21:00 GMT -5
It is a matter of economics. As I said before, there is nothing new to promote and sell so there would be minimal income outside of ticket sales. Now, assuming you could even get enough promoters/venues interested to put something together overseas for a band who has not been together as a touring outfit in nearly two years and has no new music - try to figure out how many shows at what ticket price and what attendance minimums would be necessary to cover: roundtrip trans-Atlantic flights with luggage overages for a band of six and skeleton crew of three, lodging and food for these nine people, wages for these nine people who probably want to be paid at least what their current home jobs do at least, rental equipment, ground transportation, fuel, a driver, manager fees, publicist fees, tour booker fees, etc etc etc. Remember there is no record company to front this money before one dime of ticket revenue is paid out. Now, who's credit card do we want to put this on? Bottom line, unless Noel Gallagher or Johnny Marr are on the THS email list and they call Tad this week and ask him and his band to open a run of shows, I would not hold my breath for THS in the U.K. this year. Again I only offer my opinion because I think this 6 day ramp up to an "announcement" has unfortunately stoked the excitement levels of many fans a little too hard. Take their statement "playing a limited number of live shows this fall" literally and hope it parlays into something bigger in 2017 or 2018. I'm sure we can get a Kickstarter together to fund the show and I'm in contact with Alan McGee so nothing is impossible. Come on Tarbell! What the fuck happened to "Stay Positive"?! Unfortunately I think the only people who would profit from a single show in the UK would be the touts...and quite handsomely. Wouldn't it be great if the fans could fund it though??
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Post by garym on May 6, 2016 4:59:06 GMT -5
As long as the festivals don't blow their budget on a ferris wheel, I guess this is always a possibility. No festivals in the UK after mid September Depends on your definition of "UK". www.loopallu.co.uk/And this small festival is well known for some decent bands.
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